130K After Being Revived! 1966 Porsche 911

Like Jesse’s recent Thunderbird post, this 1966 Porsche 911 is a barn find that was cleaned up and prepared for the new owner to take it to whatever level they want to, or just drive it now. It comes complete with its Porsche Certificate of Authenticity and is listed for sale here on eBay for the bargain price of $130,000. Bidding is up to over $100,000 but hasn’t met the reserve yet. No, I’m not kidding. It’s located in Sunnyvale, Texas.

The seller says this is what the car looks like after cleaning and buffing. I’d say they did a nice job! I’ve got some dirty cars I’d like to turn them loose on. They do describe some door dings and scratches, and there are some dents in the nose as well. The car was stored for twenty years prior to being cleaned up and partially readied for the road.

Now you may think they just cleaned up the engine and put some stock parts back on it. Nope. This was a full engine-out rebuild to original specifications. The transmission was rebuilt at the same time. Both now have under 200 miles on them. The car itself is showing 93,431 miles. Naturally, they also had other mechanical work done, including new brake pads, rebuilt brake calipers, new brake lines, new gas lines, a refurbished gas tank, new shocks and a new set of tires (including the spare).

Being a thorough seller, they have also included pictures of the underside of the car, which looks used  but not abused. This also gives you a nice shot of the newly rebuilt mechanical components and new mounts for them.

I don’t think you’ll be disappointed by the inside of the car either–at least if you like early 911s. I’m not too sure about that radio, though; it really spoils the period appearance (although if you’re driving it you might feel otherwise).

The seats are pretty good looking as well. I guess it’s an acquired taste (early 911s)? Are you interested in spending small house money on acquiring this Texas find?

 

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Comments

  1. Todd Zuercher

    For that price, I think I would’ve done something with the steering wheel and removed that $1.99 cover. Nice car though!

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  2. Dave Wright

    You are on the wrong site………go over to some new car blog……maby you will understand them better.

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    • billy

      What part am I not understanding, the Mustang or the selfishness of the rich?

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    • Dave Wright

      So…….Whitch guy is smarter……the one that buys a new Mustang for 40,000 that is worth 10,000 in 4 years or the guy that buys this for 130,000 with the probability it will keep up with inflation or even make a few bucks over time? I have never understood the new car hype, bought one one time……..paid 7000.00 cash for it, sold it 4 years later for 2,000…….was the most expensive car I ever owned.

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    • Bobsmyuncle

      That argument would hold water except for the fact that you CAN buy a new car that will hold value, or if well bought will even go UP in value. It’s done everyday.

      Of course none of this addresses the cost of ownership including not only upkeep but insurance, and stress of driving an investment priced car.

      I’m not really arguing either side, as I see both sides clearly however the advantages of a new performance car simply cannot be discounted.

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    • billy

      Your spelling is atrocious.

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    • Dave Wright

      Probably………but I obviously make a lot more money than you do.

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  3. Rock On

    How does that old saying go, ” more money than brains”?

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  4. Dave Wright

    Prices on these cars are driven by the European market. We are just followers. This kind of car in Germany, Holland or Switzerland is pure status. A simple (bad) hamburger in Switzerland cost me 50.00 last year and it was the cheapest thing on the menu.

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  5. angliagt

    I wonder if there’d be the huge interest in Porsches,
    (& other cars like them) if they were still affordable.
    It’s sales like this,that have taken a lot of the fun out
    of the car hobby.

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    • Chuck

      I owned and drove 911s for 30 years. Wouldn’t own one newer than a 93 now. IMHO, Porsche lost it’s charm when they went from being a true enthusiast’s car to a status symbol. And now the come as family trucksters and four door atrocities. smh

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  6. Woodie Man

    You sound like a Commie! 🙂 Your point is well taken though. The “Average Joe” will always get kicked in the pants.thats life…….now as to the car…….

    As the former owner of a California sunroof ’70 911 ,.not as early as this one, but with a sunroof and dealer a/c sold last year for a hell of a lot less. Now…SWB Porsches .early as possible.’65/66, are more desireable to some folks. Originality is the holy grail to man,.myself included. That said I think this is a lot of money for this car……but we shall see.

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  7. richard douglass

    I say let the folks with the money pay all they want for cars that are “trendy”. That may drive up the price of a few cars ,but there are still plenty of “non-trendy” cars that are affordable for the average working stiff. I have, in the last year, bought a 1960 imperial for $4000 and a 1965 marlin for $5000.Both were running cars when i bought them, and with a bit of poor man’s sweat equity are now being enjoyed as daily drivers. This is what the true antique car hobby is about!!

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  8. richard douglass

    1960 imperial

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    • Dave Wright

      Great cars……..and good point. There are collectors cars for any budget and taste.

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    • Woodie Man

      Two beauties! I had a ’63 Crown Imperial…………..loved it. Good for you!

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  9. BarnfindyCollins

    I like this car but not the price. This really isn’t a fair comparison but look at the Alfa GTV 1750/2000 ,its 40k plus now. The Triumph TR8 and Alfa GTV6 are 10k and you can’t even find one. Granted, the Porsche is a precision crafted tool, but seems like the lowest production number cars have the greatest headaches and lowest price.

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  10. Dolphin Dolphin Staff

    There are all kinds of reasons why people like old cars like this, and lots of other old things besides cars. Antiques…older houses with style…all kinds of collectibles like baseball cards… Almost anything vintage will have certain people following the market and buying if they can afford it.

    Nothing new here about an old Porsche 911 in that category. I’m sure all of us could name a few cars that we would wish for, and at least some of them would be older, rarer, and mostly way more expensive than when new. Otherwise why would we be spending time on a website called Barn Finds?

    Look at almost any part of the collector car market and you usually see that it’s the earlier years—often the first year of a landmark car model—that tends to be the most desired and expensive. That’s because, being a landmark model, it caught the car world’s attention, and probably influenced the design of other cars that came after.

    Nothing new here. This is just one of the most recent early 911s to come out of hiding, get cleaned up, drivetrain rebuilt, and offered to the car world for big money. Great looking, landmark design, famous designers, famous company, one of the best racing records in history, company still going strong…etc. And now that it’s old, it’s rare because a lot of them are gone.

    If this wasn’t a desirable, expensive, collectible car there would be something wrong with the world.

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    • Woodie Man

      Dolphin- Quite well put. The simplicity of the early 911 design even up to and including my old ’70 is a thing of beauty. My plan is to live to a hundred and twenty and take advantage of the fall off in old Porsche prices and swoop in and get another one! Gotta have goals!

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  11. Francisco

    If I bought this car, I would replace the radio with the new Becker Mexico. Manufactured by Harman, it looks every bit like the original Becker of the ’60’s, but contains the latest state-of-art electronics. Best of both worlds. I’d also wear a Tag Monaco wrist watch like the one Steve McQueen wore in the movie Le Mans.

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    • KeithK

      I have as much chance at being Steve McQueen as I do owning this car. Forget the watch and the radio. This reflects the high end of this hobby that I disdain. For everyone of these there are ten others who believe grandpas 1980s Chevy celebrity is now a six figure barn “messterpiece”

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  12. James L. Ellis

    …or you could pay twice as much for an under engineered Volkswagen 23 window Deluxe ‘Samba’ bus!
    I agree in as much as everything seems hyper-inflated lately. My passion for metal remains strong but unfortunately must financially watch the big dogs from the porch.

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  13. Joe Howell

    It’s an investment. The car it’s self isn’t that great by today’s standards but is an icon. Things are worth what someone will pay. This Porsche bubble will burst sometime and prices will drop some but always stay out of reach of most. Too bad I blew all my money on airplanes in the 90s and didn’t put it in old 356s at giveaway prices:(

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  14. Alan

    Coulda, shoulda, woulda. Too late now for me, I’ll have to settle for a damn Pinto.

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    • JCW Jr. Member

      Even they are going for a lot more than they sbould be. All prices have gone crazy. In 98 my Met Convertable was 3000 now to buy it I would need to spend 18,000 to 20,000. Crazy. I would not pay that for one.

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  15. Bill

    I’ve never ben a fan of these so the fascination is lost on me. I drove one once. Just once.

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  16. DAN

    living wage?
    lol
    like $15+ an hour to flip burgers……….entry level jobs are for kids
    not to pay for your wife and kids and home
    idea: don’t get a wife, home and have kids if all you can get is a min wage job!,lol

    bad azz 911
    worth every $$$$$

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    • billy

      Okay, you brought it up. Burger flipping is all that is available for the uneducated, people who pay 130K for a 51 year old car have off shored all the family supporting jobs. And, lets not forget the educated, now that 90% of people ARE educated, the 130K car shoppers are using it as a way to lower their wages too because of supply and demand. Oh my, so much more cash to buy more old cars! If you fell through the cracks and came out okay in this economy, well bully for you, but many of us have been stepped on. I am pushing 60 with many years of college and professional licenses yet have been forced out of more then one job for simply being well paid. I blame elitism and selfishness. Do not get me wrong, I do not hate car people, I am a fan of all things automotive, but it is the type of person who can fork over this kind of dough for one on a whim, they are most likely the kind of person who is walking all over the rest of us in this economy. I want the world I grew up in back, most of us do.

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    • Dave Wright

      Not really the place for an in depth discussion but Education is a large part of the problem. The academic community……..most of whitch has never done anything productive in there life……..tells everyone that all you need to do is pay this exhorbanant collage’s fees, hang out for 4 years and you will be successful. It has always been a lie. All an education does is gets you on the first step of the ladder. You still have to perform. Our society is full of angry people that feel shortchanged that they can not succeed because they never learned to be ambitious or competitive in the world they live in. The person that puts in the time, sweat, and energy to compete will succeed. I have seen it in many walks of life, people want to make some extra money that go and get a realtors licence, then learn it is a lot of work to make a paycheck…… one out of 20 stay with it and make money. A couple of months ago the Dalai Lama was asked what the biggest problem in the world was……he answered immediately, “education”…….people are not being taught useful subjects and the morality that accompany them. The most important skills are learned at your fathers elbow……things like ambition, responsibility, pride in your work…..those things have been reduced in our society by formal education.

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  17. angliagt

    And I’ve noticed that EVERY Porsche is a “Rare” one,
    even the newer ones.

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    • Bobsmyuncle

      Exactly! The weakest argument for their value is rarity. There is a non stop supply on offer daily.

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  18. olddavid

    Paid $7700 for one in 1975, when the Audi 100 next to it went for less than $5K. I am actually glad I got that out of my system early as it was what I thought of as a natural progression from a 240Z. The prices for these will end up self sustaining because so many have so much tied up in them. I can see a 25% market swoon like muscle cars in early 2010, but the days of buying a basket case for $1500 are long gone.

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    • Chuck

      Ha ha. Your post sounds like me. I started with Triumphs (two Spitfires), followed by four “Z” cars then a Corvette (worst POS I’ve ever owned), a RX7 followed by several Porsches. You know what’s in my Garage now? Two TR6s and an old Bug.

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  19. Luki

    I can’t decide which one to drive this weekend. I guess if it’s sunny I’ll take the Targa. Some people that haven’t owned a 911 will never understand. Oh well.

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    • Woodie Man

      Ouch!……..lol

      If I hadn’t already been privileged enough to have had an early 67 Targa and the ’70 911 T I would be jealous! I’m not. Thank the gods.

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  20. Jubjub

    Luki, even worse is having owned one when they were attainable and letting it go for a pittance at the dawn of that damned bubble.

    People say they’ve driven one but have they DRIVEN one. Stout and begging to be pushed and punished. That same occasionally notchy second gear is the same one that engages like butter in a nice drift!

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    • billy

      As I recall, that rear engine weight makes itself amply noted around corners. Ever lost the tail on one? People tell themselves that they drive great, but in reality, you would be far better off in a used Miata, now there is something that handles. Of course, not the country club snob effect, but I get happy smiles and waves from everyday folks when I drive by. Thems my people, the Walmart crowd!

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  21. Gregg

    Buy a Boxster for $10,000 ……great and dependable 30mpg, 6cyl, air, power. good stuff. handles like It’s on rails……….mine has tiptronic shift. Love it.

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  22. David Miraglia

    I’m salivating with envy. Love 911’s and that car is only two year younger than my actual age. It also has the big chill factor too boot

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  23. Pappy2d

    Rolex on wheels.

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  24. Flman

    Alan said it best here: “Coulda, shoulda, woulda. Too late now…”. There was a time when older 911’s (cars from the 60s and 70s) could have been acquired for not anywhere near crazy money. Just a few grand in fact. But then people here at Barnfinds and other enthusiast sites were either interested in other stuff at the time or were too young to jump into the pool to buy one.

    In every generation the people get older and some of those who are reminded of their youth can suddenly have a hankering to own a car like their dad had, or friend’s dad had, or older neighbor down the street had. Invariably those that grew up to be doctors, surgeons, attorneys or investment bankers have way more disposable cash that others of their peers. So i can’t fault the guy that has a hundred and thirty cash to throw down on a car. He’s likely bought all sorts of other stuff at prices most would find unreasonable and excessive – wine, art, boats, and even stupid humidor rooms for the house (remember that cigar fad earlier in this century when even women ‘had’ to smoke that crap).

    In sum, the passion so many here have for vintage autos will remain just a passion, a dream not realized by a reality of ownership. And in some ways the inability to attain the dream brings out the human nature of distain for the others who can buy one of these $100k 911’s, get the wife a piece of fine jewelry on an anniversary (at 4 plus carats D color, IF clarity and a platinum designer setting) and still take the whole family on a sailing vacation in the summer for three or four weeks to Aruba all without missing even a penny of the money spent.

    I instead try to pay no mind to those people as there will surely always be someone with more cash than me. So long as I have my health, my wonderful wife and children, and a few pets running through the house then life is fine for me as-is. If I ever get myself an automotive ‘toy’ then I’ll enjoy it and appreciate having the means to do so. If not, nothing lost. Remember NONE of us can take it with us. Not Michael Jackson, not Prince, not George Michael nor any of the other ultra wealthy whom we all read about and who’s lives are over largely from the fame and drugs that their money bought them,

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  25. keith clark

    flman is completely right, there will always be someone with more money. But that is really irrelevant. I for one have always loved high end cars,just never had the ability to get one. That being said i don’t disdain the ones who can,it is simply the ways things play out. There will never be a time when everyone will be equal.Some have more ambition then others, some inherit wealth and others some time are at the right place at the right time. In the end how you live your life and if your happy is all that matters,Don’t waste time on negativity. Just my 2cents. I absolutely love this site though. Keep up the good work.

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    • billy

      All the above is true, but how old are you? The tail end of the Baby Boom has gotten the shaft (and the kids, well, they really are screwed, don’t we all know it?) I recall a world where an honest hard working man could live the American Dream, have a humble home of his own that was affordable, retire with dignity (checked out how many sad looking senior citizens work fast food these days?), be able to send the kids to college, take a nice vacation every year, all with often having a loving wife taking care of your kids and home without the hassle of working too. What changed? I think we all know. The pendulum has swung too far to the right, time to center that sucka, and do it soon. If we don’t, the ultra rich will not be able to even drive these cars, the world will not be safe. Do we really want two separate but unequal classes in this country where the beyond rich live in fortresses and the rest of us live outside those hallowed gates? I too would love to forget this and just be happy, but I fear for our children’s world, we can not leave them the world that is coming, we can’t.

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      • Woodie Man

        billy………..Id venture to say I’m a mite older than you….. not by much though…….first vote was in ’72. You can guess who I proudly cast my first vote for. It has been a continuous tilting to the wealthy for a very long time. Lots of changes in society plus the inherent nature of capital to look for the cheapest labor has rendered America today much different that it was when I was growing up. That said the very people who have gotten the real shaft……the tradesman, the blue collar shift workers who built the infrastructure that made this country, the folks who used to drive the majority of cars we see on BF, just put in place a government made up of the very people that have screwed them for forty five years. Go Figure!

        Given that reality as Pogo used to say…we have met the enemy and they are us. Now back to old cars some we can afford, some not. But given the limited time I have on earth to view BF, I gotta get busy!

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  26. billy

    Not quite old enough to vote for McGovern, but wish I could have…thats for sure. I couldn’t agree with you more my friend. I am not a blue collar guy, college man from the mid 70s, and it worked for me very well until the late 90s, going down hill every since. No matter how many hours I worked, how hard I worked, how much I bent over backwards for the boss, didn’t matter…the new management mentality is that cheaper is better. Even if my wages were reflective of the years of experience, it mattered not. I feel the people who get ahead today are 1, the back side kissers, 2-the connected, and 3-those willing to walk over their fellow man for personal gain even if it is immoral. I am a believer, so I feel there is a price to pay in the hereafter, but that doesn’t make me feel any better today. Okay, with all that said, I do love coming to this site, but I lament that the cars of our youth are no longer attainable. Isn’t that sad? I have a cute little Miata that I cherish, its a thrill. Much more than many I may add, so perhaps I should be grateful..and I am for it, but it isn’t the 1971 Challenger convert I always wanted. Nothing fancy, perhaps the red 318 3 speed I was offered just when I was finishing up my degree for $800 that I had to turn down because I needed to pay rent and buy a few more over priced books. I went on to do what society expects, got a good job, was respectable and taxpaying, got married, had a family but all of that didn’t mix with a convert. Now, as my children are themselves finishing college, (which we kicked in the lions share for BTW) I could be ready for that car, but even if it were somehow still around, it would be tens of thousands of dollars, and some guy would have a hemi transplanted into it, when all I would want would be the simple standard engine for a quiet drive in the countryside with my wonderful wife..is that too much to ask? It seems the only people who are allowed to relieve their youth are rich people (and many of them are reliving our youth, because they were not even born!) I know, Capitalism, but in the future, this kind of thing will be foot noted somehow as a bad situation that added to the anger of the masses. Would love to live long enough to see how it all turns out, hopefully happily.

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    • Woodie Man

      I feel you billy…… I .have more degrees than a thermometer! That said one of the greatest things I have is my appreciation for old iron having owned and driven most of what I like as I went along in the last 46 years.

      BarnFinds is a the great intersection of schadenfreude over the ridiculous prices some pay to own cars they wouldnt have dared to drive ‘back in the day ( 21 window bus, for example) and just downright good fun and really knowledgeable commenters. I take it for what it is. You should too. Just enjoy the heck out of all the hard work Josh et al do to bring this to us every day. I do.

      I guarantee you that if you keep yours eyes open and fortune smiles on you, one day you’ll turn a corner and there in front of you will be a reasonably priced old car that has your name on it! Buy it.

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    • Dave

      Billy, sir, you have some very serious issues and there are professionals who can, for a fee, help you sort through your bitterness. Take that Miata for a top down ride, pretend it’s something it’s not, and pretend you’re someone you’re not. Happiness will be waiting around every bend….

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      • Bobsmyuncle

        Classy response.

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      • billy

        Sir Dave, I am probably beyond help, but I thank you for your kindness. Okay now, where did I put those meds?

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  27. angliagt

    Could we PLEASE keep politics out of this site?

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  28. Francisco

    Barnfinds says no personal attacks, so I won’t mention any names. But there is a commenter above who is wallowing in victimhood and who has a high sensitivity to slight. My comment to him is go find another group of namby pamby complainers, and leave this site to individuals who love cars and love talking about them, whether we can afford them or not. To anyone who can afford his fantasy to buy a $100,000 car of his dreams, I say more power to you. Congratulations, you have arrived. Enjoy your life

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  29. William

    I drove a late 70’s 911s from nyc to denver as a “drive away'”car and delivered it to an auction. nice car but I never got the porsche fever. Go rent one and get it out of your system.

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  30. Bullethead

    I get why people are pissed or frustrated about being priced out of a particular niche of the hobby. Crack-pipe $$$ for old VW buses and 911s baffle me too.

    But some of us bought them not as “investments” but daily transportation. Our modest fleet was acquired more than 20 years ago, we don’t own anything newer than 1972. That all are now market targets is irrelevant… they’re just nice old cars that we prefer over modern iron. As pointed out earlier, there are plenty of choices to enjoy an old car driver lifestyle that won’t break the bank… and all will get you to your destination with a smile.

    Drive ’em!

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    • Woodie Man

      Should never have sold my ’67 21 window w a Westphalia interior! Every time I see a beauty like yours I wince! Of course at the time I sold it for a ’72 BMW 2002 sunroof……which in turn I sold for a ’63 Imperial……….I didn’t know I should keep them all! lol

      Good for you!

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  31. John Frei

    Yes the Mustang will run circles around the Porsche but it cannot deliver the visceral, connected driving experience that the Porsche has and that’s part of the reason why these sell for so much. As for “living wage”, I’d save that comment for a political blog.

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    • billy

      No, I think the reason why these cars are priced so high is directly related to income inequality in this country, hence, this is a justified topic of conversation here. Anyone else here wishing that many of these car prices would drop so more of us could enjoy them, not just the elite? Okay, as far as “visceral”, I have driven one, scared the hell out of me. The handling was pretty bad, I think you are confusing an almost uncontrollable car with excitement. Perhaps you are trying to justify the expense, or the mystic. Thats okay if it is what you want, but you can never tell me that a new Mustang isn’t a by far better car, not to mention, intelligent purchase.

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    • Luki

      The handling is so poor that 911s dominated every class they ever raced in.

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    • Bobsmyuncle

      I think those waxing philosophical about the driving characteristics are simply and somewhat mistakenly mimicking what they’ve heard or read on the interwebs.

      Generally speaking this era car is terribly outdated, and in short order will be just another car that can’t keep up with modern traffic. It’s the 911s from a decade later that start to live up to the hype.

      The value in these cars is due to nostalgia and history. That value is simply not regarded equally by all.

      To consider the Mustang a more “intelligent” purchase is simply short sighted.

      If you can only own one car, and it needs to get you to work every day all year, than yes you are probably right. If you want the purchase to retain value than you are wrong. There are many other pros and cons for each.

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    • John Frei

      Again, this is not a place for politics. And if you think that income inequality is driving the price of Porsches up, you really don’t understand the market, much less Porsches. By the way, there are insane prices also being paid for certain mid to late 60’s muscle cars, including some Mustangs, and a current Mustang could run circles around all of them. You should check out the videos of Magnus Walker. You might learn something. Or you could just go drive a Mustang to your “living wage” job and not worry about what the other guy has.

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  32. dr fine

    In 1968, I had a buddy who’s father got a ’60 Mercedes 190SL out of a junkyard, had body parts welded in place and a complete restoration done. It was magnificent, but Jeff didn’t appreciate it. He drove it a few months and traded it “even” for a new ’68 Olds. The Olds may have fitted his fat ass better, but all I could think of was what will the cars be worth four years from now, and which one will turn heads? Each person looks at individual cars in a unique way.

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  33. Mark S

    One of the things that drives the price up is not everyone is a mechanic or a fabricator or an auto body repairman, so most would have to rely on someone who is. With $100.00 + per hour labour rates it is easy to see why collector cars are so expensive. I used to think that it was unfair that the little guy was out of the loop on a car like this, but not anymore. I was at a car show a couple of years ago, and I got talking to a guy that was displaying his 68ish dodge. I asked him what his car was worth and he said about 50k. I asked why so much and he proceeded to tell me that the restoration was 40k. I asked why that was so much, his answer was that is what the restoration shop charged him. Most of it was labour. So to see this Porsche at 130k is not a surprise. What I’m getting at is we all need to aim for something that is in our price range and our ability to refurbish it. Be happy with what you have and quit looking over your neibours fence with envy. One last point when it comes to a project car, what you don’t know can be learned and if you get connected there is always some out there that will help you.

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    • Dave Wright

      I wouldn’t get out of bed for 100.00 an hour, I have 10 employees, we charge 110.00 an hr for each……..that’s about 500.00 an hr for me……even my wife makes more than 100.00 an hr as an engineer…….you made the wrong choices in life……..can’t blame any one else for that.

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  34. Bobsmyuncle

    As usual I can only chuckle at the comments displayed on web forums. I’m always left curious whether these bold attitides would be displayed in a face-to-face. Of course the answer is no.

    These cars ARE over valued there is no question of that. Their exponential growth is only one bit of evidence.

    I own one of the ridiculously priced VW buses and I still think they are insanely priced (and their true values are far less than you all think).

    My house has doubled in value in 8 years, I might have made out well but I’m shaking my head incredulously. I couldn’t to buy in my neighbourhood now especially if rates go back to normal.

    The world is out of control and the difference between the rich the endangered middle class, and poor is soberingly staggering. And just because you might be making out well one shouldn’t dismiss the problem.

    Good for Billy for recognizing it while the rest enjoy the spoils or hide their heads in denial.

    But since all this talk makes many of you uncomfortable let’s look at the problem from the hobby side of things rather than sociopolitical.

    Ever wonder about the glut of 911s on the market? Sure many are capitalizing on the value but if they are so good why is everyone selling?

    And why is it so many buyers are collectors and first time owners? If they are so good why aren’t long time owners upgrading or expanding their fleet?

    If you’ve read any of the Porsche magazines in the past several years or chatted with long time PCA members you would see that even owners are troubled by these values.

    Insurance is higher and if you race, the financial risk might be too great to warrant and insurers hesitant to cover your car at all.

    Parts cars are becoming non existent or at least unaffordable so you better be cautious of any shunts in the corners which reduces the fun.

    And worse case scenario you ball it up, for many that means you are out of the scene altogether.

    Driving a high dollar car is stressful. And these are driver’s cars. That’s a poor combination.

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    • billy

      Well said, thank you for the recognition. People here are justified in saying that I shouldn’t be politicizing here, thats not what it is for. (Lord knows the Barn Finds people don’t want it. Just as the problem drinker is the bread and butter for a tavern, its the high end guy who is theirs. Thats where they make their ample cut. They don’t want to hear this, they want it all happy and lucrative without anyone actually thinking too deeply) It is easy if you were lucky enough to land in a fortunate economic spot to keep your head in the sand and just write off others as less deserving, not as hard working, etc…I know, I was there. It has started to come home for many of us, formerly at the top of the game people, this country is heading for a fall, and the car prices are just another bird in the coal mine to remind us, but people do not want to pay attention because they are still picking out gold from that mine. When it suddenly collapses, we all get crushed. As far as complaining on another web site, well, Jesus ate with the tax collectors for a reason, you go where the action is. No use preaching to the choir . Car people are great people, at least the purists. The “fashionable” crowd, the ones with all sorts of easily made money, are not. They are in it for the prestige and the investments. I sure wish that would change.

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      • John Frei

        Lots of resentment, envy and profound misunderstanding of economics on this blog which used to be about cars. Instead we get social justice warriors spouting off their ignorance. Here’s a much happier way to through life: 1) Don’t worry about how much the other guy has, 2) Don’t worrry aobut what he or she might have paid for a Porsche 3) If you want something – work for it.

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      • Dave Wright

        John Frei: perfect summation and words to,live by.

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  35. VintagePower

    I am astonished at the whining written here about people who make or have money to buy whatever it is they want. Whining about how the world has been unfair to you is just pathetic. There are plenty of people around the world who would trade places with you in an instant because no matter how bad you think you have it, there are people who are significantly less fortunate than you. There are millions of very hard working, well educated people who can barely make ends meet. They happened to be born in the wrong country or in the wrong skin color, or in the wrong sex, or to the wrong parents or have some other “disadvantage”. There will always be some less fortunate than you and there will always be some that are more fortunate than you. It’s a fact of life. Deal with it.

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    • Dave

      Let me add one more thing to that. There are plenty of people in this land and others who have been born into disadvantage and have risen to the top. Found their talent, recognized an opportunity, exercised perseverance, or simply helped others. Not everyone with money was born into it or had a pot of gold delivered on their doorstep.
      Oh, and by the way, nice Porsche. Wish I had the money to buy it!

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    • John Frei

      Exactly. The whining and proud grandstanding about life’s inevitable inequalities does nothing to help the less fortunate and only serves to make the grandstander feel better about themselves.

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  36. keith clark

    I’ll leave one more comment on this subject and that is this, these high dollar cars are no longer cars they’re commodities and i think that is really what “disturbs” most car guys. These were always cars and that’s changed. It’s like a lot of other things gentlemen we won’t ever go back it’s changed and we can’t change it back. So what we do is admire these awesome works of art and tell our “you know back in the day i had one of those stories”.

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  37. Jamie Jamie Staff

    Up to $110,100 so far.

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    • Woodie Man

      Jamie……….I’m really starting to think I sold my 1970 911T waaaaaaaaaay to cheap! But what the heck……….movin on……

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