Mystery 1969 Baldwin-Motion Camaro

1969 Baldwin Motion Camaro Find

UPDATE 12/3/11 – The auction did not meet reserve at $25,000 with 23 bids.

Original Baldwin-Motion supercars bring big money today. They were basically race cars for the street which were built by Motion Performance and sold through Motion or Baldwin Chevrolet. The seller of this 1969 Baldwin-Motion Camaro is not sure if this car is the real deal, but there is some very convincing evidence to prove that it is. The car is listed for sale here on eBay with bidding at $5,000 reserve not met.

1969 Baldwin Motion Camaro Side

The most obvious clue here is the Motion trademarked paintjob. The exterior is rough, but you can make out the stripe down the side of the car. The front fenders are primered and part of the rear quarters are cut out, but the paint is claimed to be original.

1969 Baldwin Motion Camaro Valve Covers

Here is more glaring proof. The Motion valve covers and stripes could be easy to replicate though. We need more evidence to be fully convinced that this isn’t just some beater clone. The 427, four-speed, and welded rear end with a Motion cover help calm our doubts a little. Can anyone else find any other proof that this car is authentic?

1968 Baldwin Motion Camaro Brochure

MotionPerformance.com claims that the best route to take when determining the providence of a claimed Motion car is to contact Joel Rosen. Joel was the founder of Motion Performance and the only person who can verify the pedigree of one of his cars without an original invoice. There is not a lot of information about these cars available online, so if any of our readers know anything about these cars, we would all appreciate it if you shared.

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Comments

  1. Kraig

    Is that a Ford hood scoop?

  2. erik hawkins

    If it is the real deal, WOW!

  3. Raticalls6

    Definitely an Edelbrock torquer or Tarantula intake.

  4. erik hawkins

    I wish i had the cash to buy it! Id drive as is!

  5. alex

    no, thats a 2nd generation corvette intake…

  6. A Ewers

    Double pumper and high rise single plane spell quick AND fast. Hood scoop definitely apes the ’64-67 better. Needs a pro restoration, or at least done by someone more skilled than whoever started it. Looks like repop fenders up front.

  7. Raticalls6

    Alex, Explain ! I had a tarantula on my LS6 crate motor. in a 66 SS396. And as far as i know, No other intake put the carb at that angle. And when you say “2nd gen” Corvette. You mean C2 ? or C3 ?

    • Sinbad

      The Edelbrock Scorpion intake also had the carb mounted at an angle. I had on a 427, and still have it in the garage.

      • DenDen6

        The original BBC Edelbrock Torker had the angle mounted carb as well…I had one back in the day on a 454 LS6.

  8. erik hawkins

    My cousins best friend just got a 68 camaro ss 327 with 30000 miles on it! It was his grandmas car, they own several dealerships in south bend in. Gates chevy is where it came from, with lots of options. His grandma was mrs gates!

  9. erik hawkins

    Sorry i ment 67 camaro 68 had a 350

  10. Raticalls6

    By the way Kraig, That’s a 67 Vette “Stinger” grafted on the hood.

  11. Lemble

    If they can only prove that this is a real car by parts only why do people pay so much for one. Did the great Motion not keep vin numbers from their production output.

  12. Foxy

    I did not think the motion cars were SS models, they were COPO cars. the hood is a fiberglass replica of a L88 vette scoop.

  13. Foxy

    I just realised that is not an L88 hood, it is from the first gen vettes

  14. Raticalls6

    FYI, The “Stinger” hood scoop was a one year only big block hood on the 67 “C2″ Corvette. If you want to say “First Gen” that would be a 53-55. Or stretching it, Including all straight axle 56-62 Corvette’s. But there were no hood scoop’s on them. And ALL Motion cars were production cars, That got engine swaps by Motion performance for Baldwin Chevrolet in NY.

  15. Michael

    I did some quick research on the Baldwin Motion 69 Camaro. The car came with two different types of hood. The one shown on this car came on the 67, 68, and the 69. The 69 also got the new hood we are all aaccustomed to seeing on the cars. I have seen this hood on 69 B&M Camaros at car shows too. Also ERTL produces, or produced replicas of the Baldwin cars, (Camaros, Chevell’s, Nova’s, and Stinger Corvairs) and this hood appears on some of those cars too. Before you say it ERTL does research before they produce a replica. I have also seen the SS grill in B&M camaros too. Here is one for you. One of the rarest Camaro’s, (try, and find one) are the cars that came out in early 1966. I have seen two of these cars, COPO’s, and on the titles the car is listed as a 1966. One of the cars is in mint condition with only 10 miles on the odometer, and is Gunmetal Grey. The old guy that bought it back in 1966 told me he had worked for the Baldwin Motion dealership, and knew the car would become a very rare car. There were only a handful produced with the 1966 title. The car has been authenticated, as has the title too. He will not let the car be photographed as he does not want the publicity from the Muscle car magazine industry. If you go to the Auto restoration shop the old guy owns, and talk with him for a while, he’ll take you into the basement of the building where he has two Comaros under tarps, and he’ll show them to you. The other Camaro is a 1969 RS Z/28 Camaro with the rare cross ram induction system on the car, unmolested, and also with under 20 miles miles on it. Someone will inherit some sweet cars.

  16. justin

    Thank goodness they armor-alled the tires. Otherwise it mightta looked like a turd. But with those shiny tires, its almost show-worthy.

  17. Jon Balzarini

    That is awesome!!! One of my all time dream cars, besides a 69 yenko camaro..but this will do!!

  18. Michael Groves

    I also have three online car shows on my FACEBOOK account with some images of some rare, and customized cars.

  19. alex

    michael, I would say a Dana tuned Camaro would be one of the rarest Camaros of all time.

  20. Raticalls6

    What about the “Dick Harrell” cars ? Dana was a dealer out here in South Gate CA. Harrell was a tuner in Kansas City. But they are both significant and rare.

  21. Michael Groves

    I think all three are rare, no doubt. . I have read a few books on the Camaro, and have read about the two mentioned here. No where in the lititure did it mention a 1966. That is until I seen the title from the car this older guy had. I have done a image search for a 1966 Camaro, and there is only one image I have found. It is a RS/SS. Ether way though, it would be sweet to have any of these versions of the Camaro.

  22. Lemble

    The JL8 option Camaro is from GM this the 4 wheel disc brakes option . Only like 201 or 206 were produced with this option. Mostly Z28 cars for road racing and such. My buddy had a 69 Z28 with this option very rare car . Yes a nice fast car . This was from GM not some dealership stuffing in a big block and some stickers . They were fast cars but not from GM they are no different if we all got together and started make a super car out of the new whatever . If they do not have VIN numbers to backup what they produced how is the value any better than a clone . They are all nice cars but the value thing is nuts .

  23. His Royal Flatulence

    I don’t pretend to know anything about these cars, but the engine block looks awful clean and fresh compared with everything else. I’d definitely want some expert backup on this, if I were a potential buyer.BTW, BarnFinds – if I can be a bit pedantic here, it’s “provenance,” not “providence.” OK, pedantry complete…

  24. Lemble

    His Royal Flatulence that is a very good point . The engine looks to clean.

  25. Jon Balzarini

    If its been stored inside and under plastic as it looks, why wouldnt it be clean. this, i believe is a real motion car, if not, then someone went to painstaking lengths to make it a very accurate clone..I think its real, but thats just my opinion. Im not a expert nor do i claim to be.

  26. Mark

    No trim tag. Avoid like the plague.

  27. Michael Orrell

    The hood is an L-88 corvette hood . It was factory on corvettes with the L-88 427 . Also came on all Baldwin Motion Vettes , Camaros , Chevelles , Novas etc.

  28. foxxy

    From reading all the comments about the value of this thing, and whether or not it is real. The not having any numbers from Motion answers that Question. This is just another Camaro some one found in a wrecking yard, even if it is a motion body,,, what is it worth??. The primer on the front shows it has been bent up, and I wonder how bent the frame might be?? The engine could be any early big block with “Motion” valve covers on it, and the intake was a popular item, but not just for “Motion”. The hood is reproduced by many. Look in JC Whitney. Its just a wrecked car with some choice parts on it that can be bought at a swap meet anywhere. The only folks I see making any money on this thing is the guy selling it now. I would rather buy a nice 427 Camaro, and put the stripe and valve covers on it. if there are no ###’s you wouldn’t even have to call it a clone. JMO

  29. Raticalls6

    Foxxy,I couldn’t agree more. Many years ago i bought the car you described.Mine was a 69 Yenko Camaro RS replica . Awesome 20 footer. In actuality, A bunch of neat looking (broken) high performance parts. Aluminum heads on a 427 with 7.4 cast in the block. Neat stuff like that. I got it from a dealer in Alsip IL. Buyer Beware !

  30. Ed

    Fox, COPO was a special order from the factory. “Central office production order” and Baldwin & Yenko were Chevy dealerships. Motion Performance worked with Baldwin Chevrolet to make these Motion Chevy’s. Don Yenko made the the Yenko’s.

  31. Foxxy

    So Ed says, what are you saying that I don’t know what copo means. or is that all you could come up with to comment. I believe everyone on here knows what it means or there would be no discussion.

  32. Ed

    Foxy says:

    November 27, 2011 at 8:01 am

    I did not think the motion cars were SS models, they were COPO cars. the hood is a fiberglass replica of a L88 vette scoop.

    Why such a smart ass reply? Yenko used COPO cars not Baldwin. Baldwin did use Super Sports. Baldwin-Motion never re-badged a single factory COPO 427 Camaro or Chevelle

  33. Ed

    And both companies used the L-88 hood scoop.

  34. Your Name

    I feel confident this is NOT a real Baldwin car. too many irregularities with it. the paint scheme does not match a baldwin, the wing is wrong, no legit numbers to speak of. makes it more likely someone put the engine and pipes on possibly off a wrecked motion car but i dont believe this to be a real one. some confirmation or information from the owners/seller would be much appreciated.

  35. Dennis Merrell

    does anyone know on the bbc 427 motors if Baldwin motion ported the heads to acquire the hp claimed or were they stock unported heads I assume at least the hy po versions were fully ported 600 hp with a tunnel ram thanks for your answers Dennis

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