We have all been through this before. You spot a car that interests you behind a house, or in a field, or in some other place where the elements and vermin are taking their toll on it. Upon making contact with the owner, who is almost always some combination of unique, eccentric, smelly, angry, insane, and/or delusional, your heart sinks. They tell you that the car is not for sale, and that they are going to “fix it up someday.” No amount of bribery, coercion, logic, reason, or pleading changes their position, and you are left to watch the car slowly return to the Earth each time you drive by. While the owner of this 1936 Ford coupe may not fall into any of the above categories of reluctant owner, the fact that this car was last registered in 1951 is a good lesson in how far away that mythical “someday” can be. Thankfully, this 1936 Ford coupe has found itself for sale on Craigslist in Roseville, California for the not so low price of $18,000. Our gratitude goes out to reader Paul Connor for this yard find.
As far as antique cars go, it is hard to find a more suitable driver than a 1935-1936 Ford coupe. Available with or without a quarter window (called, respectively, five windows or three windows), these cars had a good power to weight ratio, handled well for having a solid front axle, and provided a smooth ride for a low priced car. Passengers could also enjoy flow through ventilation, as the rear window could be rolled down on all coupes with a rumble seat, but the feature was optional on those cars that came with a trunk (like this one). More than a few participants in the Great Race, a cross country rally for vintage cars, choose early Ford coupes for those very reasons. In addition to their driving attributes, these coupes are some of the most aesthetically pleasing Fords of the prewar era. Parts for them are no problem, and club support is excellent due to the efforts of the Early Ford V-8 Club of America.
As for this 1936 Ford coupe, I have been poring over the 1935-1936 Ford Book, which is a restoration guide for these cars put out by the Early Ford V-8 Club, to determine whether or not it is a Standard model or a Deluxe. As you would imagine, standard cars are more spartan, with such limitations as a single sun visor on open cars and far less ornate trim and upholstery. This matters to restorers because everyone wants a fancier car to drive. The only concrete clues I can find to determine the trim level is that the steering wheel on this car is a black two spoke version and the shape of the door handles. Deluxe cars had a beautiful steering wheel called a “banjo” type, that was supported in three areas by a set of thin rods. While the ad claims that the upholstery is original, the stitching pattern does not match up with any of the ones mentioned in the restoration book. It may seem I am picking nits here, but details matter when you are trying to justify an asking price.
On the exterior, it seems that all of the chrome pieces are still there. The blue is not a 1936 color, but the black on the rear is. The painted grille would also match up with this being a standard car, but it could also be painted over. The top parts of the hood seem to hang over far forward of where they should for some reason. This doesn’t make a lot of sense, as the hood sides seem to kind of match up with the grille and cowl. Obviously, the headlight assemblies are missing and it appears that masking tape hadn’t been invented when this car got its new blue finish. The running boards look to be in decent shape, other than the overspray, and the top insert must have been protected in some way by whatever is resting on the roof. The door handles are correct if this is a standard car, as 1936 Deluxe models had curved handles.
The interior is a train wreck. The bumpers look to have been rusting away in there for some time, and whatever that is on the front seat isn’t doing the seat springs any good. The instruments are missing, and, hopefully, have been put in the house in a protected place. The rear view mirror is supposed to be oval, but this one appears to be round. Remarkably, the aforementioned steering wheel looks to be in good shape from what we can discern from the unusually low quality photograph. Usually they crack in many places, but can be restored with a little effort. What alarms me most is the accumulation of leaves and branches resting against the seat on the passenger side. The door must have been cracked open for an extended period of time to allow the debris to accumulate like this. If debris got in , then surely water made its way in as well. Having water soaked carpets and door panels is a good way to put a coating of rust on everything inside the cockpit, at least until the floor stops becoming a barrier for the water’s exit.
It would have been nice to see if the original engine was still there, but I guess the seller didn’t think that was needed. His ad claims that there is no rust, no dents, and you won’t find a better car to rebuild. I want to believe him, but there are a lot of reasons why I don’t think this is the case. If he really wants to sell this car, then he needs to drag it out of his cluttered back yard, put some tires on those non-original rims (this makes me think the mechanical brakes have been converted over to later model hydraulic ones), clean it out thoroughly, and take some better pictures. Putting the ad on something other than the local Craigslist would help too. There are buyers for this car, but only the lucky coincidence of seeing it on Barn Finds will get it any extra attention from the people who will open their wallets for it. Even then, the price will scare a lot of them off. Without a look at the engine, the floors, and the currently almost resting in the dirt frame, it is doubtful that anyone is going to buy a plane ticket to come see it.
All of this hinges on whether or not the owner really wants to sell it. In his eyes, it may be perfect, or he may feel that the price is justified by the asking prices he sees on the internet for 1936 Ford coupes. I am currently working on a 1935 Ford and I can tell you that parts aren’t cheap. Even buying the little things like clips, bolts, fender welting, and the hundreds of other little things you need to bring one back to showroom condition is nickel and diming me to death. The difference is that I started out with a solid car, and this one has a lot of question marks. Then again, if my wife was on my case to sell my car, I’d take some crappy pictures, post it on a local website, and set an unrealistic price for it to get her off my case.
Sad to say, but I think this one is going to be in the same place next year. I hope I am wrong.
Long before “I’m gonna fix it up someday”, this was a train wreck. The interior looks like it currently serves as a chicken coupe with horder junk tossed in. Damn shame that this 5 window was relegated to this demise. There should be a law prohibiting this type of neglect .
I have a connection with about 40 cars, vans and pick-ups, including 9 Lincoln Zephyrs from 1939 to 1947, and they are all “gonna be fixed someday”. Well, the last car he restored was a 1934 Ford 4 door Phaeton and that took him 10 years so working on that time frame they will be worth lots of cash in 400 years time! however, at least they are all garaged and waiting for him to croak so that when auction time comes lots of new owners can get to work on them.
18K? I don’t want any of what he is smoking.
Ah, I spot the dreaded blue tarp on the ground next to it. The green house effect if you will. Plenty of moisture even in sunny CA. Pretty cool looking BUT….so many buts on this one.
It will sit for another 20 years, then it will be worth scrap price only.
“Stored indoors since 1951,” really?? Why is it outdoors with dirt up to the rims and leaves on the inside??
Actually it had been in indoor storage some time around the mid 70,s , the picture you see is when the owner was a teen and had it in his parents back yard. It hasn’t been registered since 1959, probably when the motor went south.
What a shame .
It’s sad to see an old car sitting year after year with nothing happening to it. But you also have to understand that in a lot of these cases the owner’s intentions are honorable. So many times LIFE just gets in the way and you find yourself raising kids, working ridiculous shifts, or doing a major renovation to the house. I know a guy who sat on a Chevy panel delivery for 52 years before he was finally able to get to it. And he finally got to it. He retired and started on his journey. He finished it in less than a year. Within 10 years he restored five more cars, two trucks and an old tractor. And up until he had that chance to really get into the project, he was bombarded with people wanting to buy that panel, or telling him he’d never get around to it, or both….
Thanks for reminding everyone that some do “get around to it” and it fulfills a life long dream when they do.
Two wipers usually meant deluxe on those early Fords……what else does he have sitting in front and around it ?
Maybe a lot of these vehicles weren’t old when they were originally parked off?
He said no dents. Yet on the driver side rear are two up high on the fender. This looks like less then 4k. I don’t get what some people are thinking.
Really Joe?….Let me know where I can buy same condition car in pic for 4k, and I will buy everyone.
Thanks Curt
Talk about a “DREAMER”
Hows about the orange dragster beside it? Package deal …
I could have bought it for 14k, I offered 10k he said no. car was inside when I went up to look at it no title, no Bueno.
Hello everyone, I’m proud to say I was very fortunate to purchase said vehicle. After a few phone calls to the owner an a visit we struck a deal just a little over 10k . For some that had concerns over condition and mainly rust, rest assured this has to be one of the best I have come acrossed in a very very long time. The rust that does exist is mostly scale in trunk and general floor areas, with the exception where the trans tunnel looks like someone cut it to get the trans out, easy to replace. Front cowl corners are great, one spot that looks like it could use some attention. No rust in door bottoms, doors close very well, glass, dash, and interiors need quit a bit of work. Body is straight and unmolested, with the only major dent being in the passenger fender due to moving it on the trailer other than that body is pretty darn nice. I feel I didn’t steel it but I do feel it was pretty good deal that was an hour from where I live.
Curt
Congratulations, Curtis!!! Keep us informed!
Curtis, if you end up having buyers remorse, call me, I really wanted it, showed up with a trailer, and after driving up from l.a. area, he didn’t want to deal. (enough) that was my 2nd time up there. enjoy.
Sorry to hear that, he did mention that someone drove up and offered 10 k and said he turned it down. To tell you the truth I would trade for a 30 – 31 5 window coupe…that’s been hot rodded a bit.
yep, that was me. I sure wish he would have done a little back and forth with me after going back up and renting a trailer and all. up and back was 13 hours. i’ll try a put up a pic of my 30 I sold last year. keep me in mind if you want to get rid of your 36 though (hee-hee-hee)
Just want everyone to know Kurt Bohne is a really cool car guy, we chatted some today and I think this car will and should be owned by him some day. Thanks again Kurt I really enjoyed talking today.
thanks for the nice words, I was in a good mood too after the call. like minded people can do that, it seems to happen less and less these days though. as far as your wish for me, I want to help make it come true for you by buying your car! you know i’m trying my best to find you a nice “A” for you to hot-rod.
just in case anyone needs closure on this car, curt sold it to me and it here at it’s new home. maybe i’ll get to it someday. . . . .kidding.