This barn find gem, in Irish Green, is a 1971 Porsche 911 T that is being sold for $52,000 with the ability to make an offer. What are you getting for that price? Well, for starters, the car has 47,000 original miles. It had been parked since 1981. The VIN is listed and it does have a clean title. Currently, the car is located in Bluffton, South Carolina. More information about the sale can be found on eBay.
Sadly, there are no photos of the engine, and what photos there are in general, are quite poor. It is listed as having a 2.2 liter flat 6 with a manual transmission. Since being removed from the garage in April that it was stored in, the engine has been serviced and the carburetors have been rebuilt. The fuel tank has been replaced and there are photos of that. The fuel pump was rebuilt and new fuel lines were put in.
Inside is a tan interior with corduroy inserts. The carpet and upholstery are all claimed to be original. The photos make it very hard to see what is going on. An external link is provided to see more photos, but it goes to a primitive site that I didn’t really want to click around on. The car has been repainted and is cracking in a few areas. Another paint job is suggested by the listing party.
While Porsches are a hot commodity right now, this might be a steal of a deal, even at the buy it now price. A quick Google search shows that models like this go for double or triple the price. It does run and drive, which is certainly an advantage. You can instantly join a local Porsche club and start fitting in quickly. This is a quick way to become an entry-level Porsche enthusiast with an appreciating asset.
Oh, this is silly. This kind of money would buy a brand new Corvette that would embarrass this thing to no end. Plus I get a warranty, comfort, reliability. What would you rather have? Maybe if it was significantly cheaper, but at this price? Not a snowballs chance in ya’ll know where.
Porsche 911s are desirable, have a pedigree are stunningly designed. Corvettes are well just corvettes really.
@Sidney, do you come here just to troll the 911 posts?
Trolls are only such if people read and comment on their posts. So if you read my post what does that make you, lunch? Why is it that if you differ from the majority opinion you are coined a troll?
“Why is it that if you differ from the majority opinion you are coined a troll?”
Differing opinions don’t make one a troll, bud. I asked the question because I see you on a number of 911 listings where all you do is slam the car. You don’t have to like the car…but saying things like they’re poor handling (they’re not) or that the price for a classic model of the car is “silly” (it’s not…it reflects the market) are hardly constructive criticism.
In fact check THIS out… you can just scroll past the listing if you want. Or you can continue troll the site for 911 listings and wade in to slam the car. You know…up to you I guess
62Sidney,
Here’s an article that might help explain my people like Porsches, I just happen to come across it.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a25619013/porsche-911-history/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_pop&utm_medium=email&date=122918&src=nl&utm_campaign=15558702
There is a big difference between buying a new Corvette and getting the the power etc. and buying a car like this. People that want Corvettes obviously don’t want a car like this and the opposite is also true. This car is a true classic and a car that would be admired by many. The Corvette? It’s just a Corvette and nothing else.
There is a big difference between buying a new Corvette and getting the the power etc. and buying a car like this. People that want Corvettes obviously don’t want a car like this and the opposite is also true. This car is a true classic and a car that would be admired by many. The Corvette? It’s just a Corvette and nothing else.
Perhaps, but if you are truly a driving enthusiast, then the Vette wins hands down. If you have some kind of emotional connection and have the dough, fine, love it, but most people understand that you only should pay so much for nostalgia. Maybe I don’t understand this market. Kind of an odd web site. I get the feeling that many here agree with you and not me. Feel free to educate me if you see an error in my thinking (my wife tries to do that all the time, but my skull is pretty thick).
Sidney, I don’t think you’re plan thinking is wrong at all. Just as you said there 2 kinds of people when it comes to automobiles and the majority of the people here are probably the kind that appreciate a car like this. That’s why they are here, if they were new Corvette, Camaro, Mustang or whatever fans they would be looking on different websites.
Personally, this car isn’t what I would consider to purchase but the Willys listed below is certainly one that I would consider. Obviously a different category again but it’s a true classic with character.
Mark, you make good sense. (BTW, I also like the Jeepster, love that engine, but I also think the price is too wild) What I question, is why do people appreciate these? Even when new, there were far cheaper cars that performed better, and by far, handled better. I almost hate to say it, but what the heck, could it be snob appeal? At least when new. Now days, I doubt most people will even know what this is, but back in 1970, girls knew darn well that a man driving a Porsche meant the ticket to not having to ever work again. To the man who owned one, it meant a never ending supply of women who were willing to stretch moral boundaries to take a shot at the rich wife lotto. So, I see this not so much as a fine driving machine, more like a lesson in social history.
Sidney – Porsches have an international racing history that Corvette (or any American make or model) could only dream about attaining. That’s why they’re loved…adored…worshiped, even. 24 Hours of Daytona, Sebring, Nurburgring, LeMans. They’ve been outright winners of all of them. And in lower classes have regularly beaten the pants off ‘Vettes. I’ve owned neither, but have current and past friends that have each brand and you either understand the different mind sets or you don’t. I’ve driven models of both and prefer the Porsche. It’s a true all-weather car on pretty much any kind of road. Also, the fit and finish puts American cars to shame. My experience in Germany goes like this, it’s ’67 & I have a brand new 390 GTA Fairlane (very h.p. intermediate) & I could out drag race & stay ahead of my buddy with his new 911 (S equivalent) on the Autobahn..in nice weather. However, hills or mountains or poor weather & he’s GONE ! And, his (and all my other friends with Euro cars) last laugh is that I have to stop and buy very expensive premium gas and they just cruise on by…. p.s. one of my Sarges wanted to trade me straight up for his 427 tri-power Vette (same year) yellow convert. Why ?? Going broke with insurance premiums, tickets/fines by MPs AND Polizei, and the gas that thing drank. I didn’t do it because I was sure I’d kill myself on the Autobahn…. Hm.
So …let me climb up onto my soapbox…..
I’ve had two early Pcars as most know and reluctantly sold my Cali original 1970T 3 owner sunroof dealer a/c a couple of years ago…as I had to. I sold it for slightly less than the ask here…..there is no doubt that in absolute dollars there is not much relationship to the car you buy and the 5 and 6 digit sales price, imho.
Unfortunately markets while loudly proclaimed to be the arbiter of true value of all things, at least in cars reflects the shifting desires of any one age cohort at a given time and the more money that age corhort has at the upper end , the more it seems willing to pay for cars of their youth etc. See 1967 21 Window VW Busses.
Perhaps some 14 yr old today will pay absolutely ridiculous prices in thrity years for a 1991 Honda….as silly as that sounds.
As for this one the lack of a sunroof hurts its value to me. That is offset by the supposedly original mileage…..and if its mostly original that certainly helps with people like me.
If I was prone to spend this kind of money on a car, I’d be looking for a sunroof. But hey the market long ago passed me by and I’m sure my view is in the minority
Sidney-I wouldn’t go too far with your Porsche social theories. While I’ve never been able to afford one, and probably never will, I have loved 911s since I first saw one when I was about 10. My favorites before that were ’40 Fords, ’57 Chevys, and Vettes and I have never thought of any car as female bait because I was never attracted to women that would be that shallow. I could just as easily make assumptions about muscle car guys being controlling meatheads with no finesse but I don’t because I know that would be a stupid stereotype. I love the look and vibe of American muscle cars but a vintage 911 has a balance of qualities that is complex, unique, and utterly responsive to human input. Nice ones feel like they’re carved from a piece of alloy, something that old American iron or modern plastic muscle cars will never equal.
Well said, Agree, to some degree, if you are going to use earths resources to build something it to me better be good. That’s why I like German design. I like pre 70s American iron for the most part, to me 67, 68 z28s epitomized my thinking. I worked for Porsche and I loved the engineering but 11s weren’t particularity easy drivers, the ass wants to go swap ends. My fave was the 914 6, a go kart on steroids. Today for me it’s bmw. I regularly use lyft and uber and the experience is interesting, newer rattle trap plastic junk.
Exactly, I have driven a few owned by colleagues, have never been impressed. Comfortable, solidly built, attractive even, whole heartily YES! But going around a curve (esp that nasty 930 I drove, or dare I say, it drove me?) I almost ended up on one of my tables. I do not understand why a company would continue that silly rear engine design that Hitler demanded to put extra interior room in a small “peoples” car and to be different from the other Western automobiles. I will stand by my statement that the primary motive to purchase a Porsche is to attract young women and show others your status, at least that is what I have observed. Of course there are exceptions, but most of my immediate coworkers buy for that reason, often that reason alone. People often do not have the physical attributes to attract the fairer of the fairer sex, but money changes everything. Many of whom I work closely with were nerds in high school and couldn’t get a date if their life depended on it, certainly not the blonde head cheerleader, but once that big job is there, the money attracted pretty women like moths to a flame: and more often then not my friends took advantage of that. The fancy car was a major tool in that attraction. I myself have not been immune to such temptation. My job title suggests a lucrative income and I recall one comely lass that hinted strongly she wanted to date, so I gave in to temptation. I will not
forget to recall the look of astonish horror on her face when she saw the humble car I drove at the time, expecting something expensive and flashy. Just the same, she went on the date and for what ever reason decided to keep dating me, I suppose she felt she could change my frugal ways. I am guilty of indulging in all that she had to offer, and my goodness, what she had was top notch! Even took her to my high school reunion. It was pure pleasure to see the looks on the faces of the old high school jocks who used to mock me when I walked into the room with a vision of beauty on my arm. The envy was palpable, and I enjoyed it immensely. Did I marry her? Of course not, she and I had nothing in common except she liked my income and I like her physical attributes. Gentlemen, all I am saying here is that a status symbol will get you what your deepest primal urges desire, but do not let yourself believe for a minute that it is necessarily a quality piece of engineering in and of itself. The prices demanded for a status symbol are based on just that, status. Oh, of course Porsche has racing heritage, and in a skilled drivers hand can do amazing things, and if you in your heart have pure desires for one, well good for you. Just do not try to tell us that the status part of the equation does not exist. Could I afford this car? You betcha. Would I?
I find that wealthy men do not care about how shallow a woman is while hunting for a financial alpha male, they mostly are in for short term satisfaction. If you do not understand that, you do not understand the male and female biology of status.
Some great comments regarding collectible cars; the varying opinions as to preference and the reasons why are interesting. I think the two main reasons people choose a particular collectible car is first, it was a car they had when they were younger and second, a car they wish they had but couldn’t afford. Everybody remembers the cars of their youth that they had so much fun with, and the feelings of nostalgia we get when we see a car we once had. Very few of us still have any of those cars today because who thought of preserving them or had the means to do so? When I think of the muscle cars I had, the cars I carelessly discarded for the next one, especially the cars that are worth so much today, it almost brings tears to my eyes!
Back in the ’70’s, car shows were filled with the classics from the ’20’s, 30’s and 40’s; mostly restored to original. You hardly see them anymore unless they’re rodded because the guys who liked them are gone. The same thing may happen to muscle cars when the Boomers are gone. In a few decades, cars shows will probably be filled with cars of the ’80’s, 90’s and beyond; muscle cars may be seldom seen. They’ll probably be cheaper then today as the guys who really desire them pass on.
Debates about collectible vs value aside, this 911T appears to be a very good value for what it is IF a pre-purchase inspection shows it to be as it appears.
After soaring through the sky, long hood 911 numbers have settled back, but they ain’t going down again anytime soon
Beautiful Porsche, Great conversation. Love to hear everybodys’ input. For what the junk is bringing, spend the extra coin now, and drive it.To Bring a pile of rust to this level would be much more than the ask on this beauty. Love fhe British green. Good luck to the new owner.
Cheers
GPC
When I bought my ’70 Corvette back in ’85, I was also considering an early 70’s Porsche, among other cars. The Corvette won and I had many good years with it and, despite today’s market, I’ve never been one to say “I shoulda bought this or that instead”.
However, whenever I see one of these come up, I truly wish that the market wasn’t so strong, because I just want to get behind the wheel and drive it.
I’ve driven some of the newer Corvette models, and while nothing can touch them price-wise for performance, I get out of the car with a “meh” opinion. There is just something about getting behind the wheel of a classic sports car – the feel, the smell, etc – that going 150 mph in a sterile environment just can’t match.
We are doing a rotisserie on 356B Cabriolet, I bought a while back and I am going back to original with it! I just hope that when we are done the paint looks this good! This is a sweet car, a little over priced, but sweet!
Sidney, if it’s the market you are interested in, then yes, you do not understand the market. If it’s racing and speed you are interested in then yes, this car is not as fast as a new Corvette and any car this much older is not as fast. If it’s aesthetics you are interested in , then yours is very limited. Car people like most all cars for their face value.
you guys. TROLL
Maybe you’re right Doug B. However, there are plenty of people that honestly see the world through sh-t colored glasses and stubbornly refuse to take them off. Let’s see, who else can I think of that see’s everything as transactional?….hmmmm…let me think…..
Gee whiz fellas, I merely pointed out that in my opinion, a large part of Porsche attraction is childish vanity. Just an opinion, I believe we are all entitled to one. As far as slimy smelly covered glasses, don’t wear glasses, in my profession they would be a hindrance. I see the world quite clearly, sometimes to my detriment. Guys, if you want to throw good money in large quantities after ancient rotting tech, you have every right. I am just trying to get some of you to see clearly, and perhaps start that climb to self actualization where once at the top you can scream, “I am free!”. If I touch even one susceptible soul, my job has been justified.
I am curious as to weather any Porsche guys could give a ol’man some advice on my project! This engine in the 356B Cabriolet project I am doing turns over smoothly! However I am going to rebuild it from the inside out! This is my first Porsche project! I am not a Virgin to rebuilds tho! What I am looking for is advice! I would love to give her a lot of oomph when she is done! What can I do too her once I am inside of her replacing everything! I would definitely appreciate any comments or ideas! We have the body on the rotisserie now and bringing that down to the bare metal! Don’t want to show any repaint as it has been repainted twice from what we can see! I am going back original on everything else!
i am just going to jump into the fray here.
i think everyone who’s commented has some valid points . . . with noted exception of the several posts making troll accusations.
beauty, of anything . . . as the old chestnut goes, is in the eye of the beholder. even then, if you find two folks who agree that the same thing is beautiful, there is a pretty fair chance that they may have different bases for arriving at the same conclusion.
take for instance my current daily driver . . . an audi tt quattro. when i bought my first one, brand new with 11 miles on it, it turned pretty much every head i drove it by in upstate ny. one person accused me of having a mid-life crisis (i told them to contact me at age, when i would be AT mid-life); others said “that’ll get the girls” except that i like boys so how does that work; others were a little more in sidney’s line of thinking that i was simply showing off my status, that i had ‘arrived’ financially, except that i could just ever so barely afford the car with the help of a large one-time bonus from my then employer.
every single one of them were wrong. i saw the car on the cover of a car magazine (august 1999 issue with a blue convertible on it, i just don’t know which magazine it was. if you have it, let me know), and i knew was MY car. it said things to me that no object had ever said previously. it spoke to my visual idea of beauty.
drv, you’ve accused sidney of limited aesthetics. my partner does that all the time. it’s grating. my aesthetics, and sidney’s, may not be the same as yours, but i assure you that they exist. i know this because of the primary truth of the definition i started with. if it were not true, there would be exactly one kind of car, which everybody would own; there would be exactly one type of house, which everyone would live in; one style of clothing, which everyone would wear; repeat as necessary for each category of object.
adding to the former, were there only a single definition about what was aesthetically pleasing, then reproductive activity of the human species would have long ago coalesced the human form into identifiable homogeneity.
i won’t even get started on what attracts me to my renault le car.
in closing, like the cars you like. at worst, cheer on people who at least like cars enough to appreciate them, even if they like different cars (i am certain there is at least one person out there who thinks that the pontiac aztec is attractive, even though i personally do not) than you do.
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I, personally, don’t know squat but there does seem to be a lot of knowledge over at Pelican Parts and a forum called The Samba. Also, if you go over to Bring a Trailer you can type ‘356B’ into the search bar. There you can wander through years of auction comments, some of them from really knowledgeable folks. Hope that helps.