UPDATE 07/07/2023: Understandably, some sellers experience frustration when a potential buyer fails to hand over the cash for a car they purchased at auction. The owner of this 1969 Camaro has recently suffered that experience, and they make their displeasure apparent in their latest listing. It is more disappointing because the sale price of $7,100 last time was far above what most people would have expected. The remaining details for this classic haven’t changed, with the Camaro listed here on eBay. The auction opens at $4,499, but there have been no bids. I hope the seller has more luck this time.
06/30/2023: One of the most significant challenges facing an enthusiast is determining when a classic is a viable project candidate and when they should turn their back and walk away. That is the question hanging over this 1969 Camaro because every aspect of this vehicle requires significant physical effort and financial input to return to its rightful place on our roads. Some readers will see it as a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, and others will see a classic that has been left to deteriorate beyond the point of no return. Regardless of your view, the Camaro is listed here on eBay in Lakewood, Pennsylvania, with no title.
It is challenging to know where to start with this Camaro, and the fact someone performed a color change from its original Butternut Yellow is the least of the worries facing the new owner. Many of the panels exhibit penetrating rust, and while some of them might be salvageable, the new owner will face a long shopping list before this car is rust-free. Many trim pieces are missing, although most of the glass looks okay. However, the exterior rust is only the first of many challenges the winning bidder will face in their quest to breathe new life into this classic.
A previous owner envisioned transforming this Camaro into a ProStreet candidate, removing the trunk pan and every other piece of structural steel beyond the back seat before the project stalled. Therefore, the buyer faces many hours of welding and fabricating to reverse the changes. Salvation might be at hand because the seller includes a secondhand rear clip with the missing parts. That will eliminate the need for some steel, but it won’t end the matter. There is too much debris inside this car to determine whether the floor pans are solid, so the buyer must budget for their replacement. Considering how much cutting and welding they already face, the additional burden will hardly be noticed!
It is unclear what this Camaro’s mechanical specifications were, but no original drivetrain components are left. However, if the winning bidder wants it, the seller will include a good front subframe with disc brakes. If I were confronting this build, I’d grab anything offered for free to reduce the costs. The interior features a partial dash and steering column, but there is no trim, and items like the seat frames are gone. These parts occasionally appear online, and considering the scope of work required before an interior retrim is needed, there’s plenty of time to strike secondhand gold. Frames are available new, but they retail for around $390 each. I’d bide my time, hoping fortune smiles upon me via eBay.
It will be fascinating to gauge reader input for this 1969 Camaro because it will undoubtedly divide opinion. The lack of a title could prove an obstacle in some locations. Considering the breadth of the work required to return the bodyshell to a structurally sound state and the expense of sourcing an appropriate drivetrain and interior, it could be the straw that broke the camel’s back. We’ve all seen some pretty sad vehicles returned from the brink, but the pre-update reader feedback on this article suggests that most feel as I do. This Camaro has probably gone well beyond the point of no return, but do you think somebody will throw caution to the wind and try to drag it back?
Questions to be answered on this car: How much money do you have? How much time do you have? How long are you going to live? Probably many more questions but you get the idea.
Somebody please tell me this is a fake ad.. first get Haggerty ins. On it for about 80,000 then dump it on side of road call Haggerty an tell them my car was stole an stripped .. put my check in the mail..
Somebody needs a title an serial no.. do they have a nice hot camaro in the garage??
it still boggles my mind on these prices for cars in this shape that should be in the scrap yard.I think that some people have more money than brains.to buy a car in this shape has got to cost an armful of money to get it even half decent even if you do the work yourself.
That’s likely where it came from.
Agree. If you cant do a lot of the work yourself. Just a big ole money pit! Bet that’s not even a vin# to at least know the build.
Big pass for me. Other projects I would consider.
Exactly
And the big one= How naive are you?
My dog Roger would have no use for a car without tires:-)
I would have a better chance of teaching a goldfish how to ride a bicycle than doing a resto on this car!
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What was once considered unfixable, are now being restored. As the numbers of these cars dwindle, people are willing to do more and more work, and spend more and more money.
Since when has there been a shortage of 1969 Camaros?? There are 124 for sale on ebay right now!
YIKES!!!! and to think people are actually bidding on this. I have a 69 Bird with the overhead 6 with a stick and rust that is nothing compared to this and it runs and I couldn’t get half what this Thang has generated. I am not a Camaro person, they are ok but I must be missing something. There have been reasonably nice ones on here that you couldn’t fix this for twice what a decent regular Camaro costs?????
Bidding on it? They’re up to $7,100!!. As a former owner of a 1969 Camaro, I know what an absolute nightmare this is going to be to fix. You will have fifty thousand in body work, or we’ll have another Dynacorn clone in the world. SMH
Just no. You cut the back end out of a car and let it sit on blocks with the back end dangling like that? For years? That pretzel will never be perfectly straight again.
Hope these guys are just bidding on the VIN. Because it’ll be far cheaper to start with a complete Dynacorn repop body than it’ll ever be to cut, weld, fill and block this heap to get it ready for paint.
Truth be told, it’s already bid halfway toward just starting from scratch. If you can live with a state-issued VIN from the DMV instead of a GM-issued one, save yourself the money on this fright pig and just build yourself a brand new one.
This can’t be fixed? I wonder if it’s better (or easier or less expensive) to install repro body panels where the back sheet metal is missing, or cut the other whole rear floor/trunk/fender area as one big piece to fit into this one and then just connect them at the perimeter…
Firstly fix what?? And no title is a major problem if it stays in PA.Our PennDot is not a friendly place to deal with.
Strip off the usable pieces parts and send it to the shredder.
I’d buy this and drive the wheels off of it…oh wait, somebody already did.
I wouldn’t bid $10..
This isn’t a car, it’s a body shell. About all you can do is make a pro-stick out of it.
Pro-stock. (Damned AI cell phone!)
Where I live it would be considered a front yard decoration in some communities. Nearby are 2 first generation Broncos and a 70s Lincoln that have been sitting for over 20 years that I know of.
Wow 😮
I didn’t know it was bring out your dead horse from the barn days 😗
This car wouldn’t transport without some welding to box it up snd not twist into pieces.
Okay folks ..
I have a 1968 GTO rear seat, 4 speed shifter, tail lights and seat belts.
I can start this full car ready to build say at 3000 dollars 💵.
“Bargain day” baby.. 🤪😜🤓 its cheaper after buying a titled parts car plus putting them together than this heap.
Good luck with loading this camaro up 👍
This car is scrap. It’s not even whole enough to be a parts car.
Pick up the radiator cap (if it has one) and slide a new car underneath!
We must have some of the same blood.
John McEnroe comes to mind here: “You cannot be serious!” The VIN isn’t even worth it especially considering there is no title. Where did it come from, and how can it be proven?
The best things about the shell appear to be glass, headlamps and grille. The rest is rust and scale.
First, acquiring a title really is not a big issue, going a bonded title road or acquiring thru states that are friendly toward older cars. Second the car is a 0riginal 69 camaro, which if you follow the market ranks very HIGH on the check list for collectors! Third, as I have been saying time after time on this site, you are seeing the Final GASP of what remains of the greatest cars to ever roll off the American assembly line, which have not been restored! The price is cheap, the market dictates the price based on rareity and value, simple Economics 101. You do not have to like it, but everyone on this site would be wanting to cash in on the going price within the current market place. Very simple, pay now or forget ever owning what is left of these classic cars!
Aye, but it’s still an overpriced pile of keech no matter what it once was.
To make it a street worthy would be expensive but this is just what you would be looking for if your making a drag racer. This looks about the same after I cut my car up to back half it. Got to S/W and pick up a back half already welded up. Half the work is done already 😆.
Sorry Gary, I total disagree with your post regarding classic cars are not a good investment! I am not sure what market you have been following the past few years, but you have a better chance of higher returns within this market then investing in stocks/bonds! I work within this market and doing just fine with my investments! Those people who are still lost in the 70s or 80s need to wake up and understand this is no longer your good ole boy buy and drive market! Those days are long gone. The current market is geared toward investors, who are paying HIGH premium for these rare muscle cars! Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but time for most to understand what is actually taking place in the market place, and understand basic Economics.
Danny, Nope. You’re watching too much Barrett Jackson. A Ford Bronco sells on there for $150k to a drunk buyer and then every schmo who has a rusted, busted Ford Bronco in their yard thinks they have a gold mine…. Well in reality it doesn’t actually work like that. If it did then every man that owned a junkyard of old cars would be a millionaire, and every busted 1980’s Camaro in every hillbilly trailer park would be worth $35k…
Tom, with all due respect, I am selling on Barrett Jackson, not watching! Evidently, you have been watching quite a few of those auctions, I assume? I can promise you, those buyers are far from drunk, and done their research long before arriving at the auction and bidding! If you have not attended one of those auctions, I would encourage you to attend, and personally gain the experience! Those auctions are provided throughout the United States, and should be within close distance,for attendance purpose. Take care.
I prefer the 1969, I owned one in 1984 when they were sought after then. $3,300 is what I paid but the original engine was toast. Seemed to me allot of middle age women liked them also as they were small and affordable.
Some dum-bass hit me in the rear 1/4 and insurance did not want to fix or repair. You see to fix one you had to find another to cut off the good 1/4. No 4 doors to scavenge from. And no-one made replacement parts, period. So NOS or salvage yard. I still have the front bumper here hanging on the wall in the shop as DrD said, my saying as well, was to get another some day or give it to a worthy project. I had a 1970 full front bumper and could not give it away, everyone wants split. Finally a few years ago a smart man took it away and now sees the open road again, and I smile.
As has been said many times, great candidate for drag car. The roof? is still there and the front cowling? survived, rear can be found aftermarket.
Everything else is fiberglass anyway and will be replaced at some point.
But someone with that in mind will pay 1 maybe 2K but that’s it. And depending on the skill level of builder what they need from the rest of the iron. I mean it is not a No. 5 car…..what is a 6 car like?
Hummmm…decent front hood on this junk piece..i.ll…pass.on it..
No value in the state of Oregon for sure without a title. If you could get a title ! you could save it. But I would maybe think a custom build by dropping the body shell onto a different chassis to cut costs. Maybe a G-Body swap comes to mind and by doing the work yourself it would be manageable.
No title seems to say stolen. What a car to have in good shape. There’s a 69 SS RS for sale 1.5hrs away, 40K. Nice blue with a white hockey stripe. Closer might be in the garage…
How surprising. Sold, but relisted; seems the “buyer” didn’t some through.
Shill bidding at its best. There’s another 1969 Camaro on there that “sold” nine times… Bahahahahaha….
Wouldn’t need a title in my state, they didn’t start those until 1975. But wouldn’t pay over a couple of grand for just a hacked up body. Would be a great start for a drag car or a pro street or pro touring build where everything but the body is thrown away anyways.
Currently zero bids. The original bidder was fraudulent. I cannot see any body in their right bidding on this.
Or the seller was fraudulent. Shill bidding is all over *bay.
Buyer came to his/her/ they/them senses at the last minute.
You buy complete 69 Camaro shells now for less than it will cost to “repair” this. But it’s still a 69 Camaro….
I’ve never commented on here before but this can’t be passed by. I love gen 1 Camaros but I would definitely give my last regards and say a tearful goodbye as they lowered this one into the crusher. I hate to see them go, but everyone and everything has its time.