How sad! This 1964 Alfa Romeo Guilia SS was crunched about 25 years ago and I’m not really sure what happened to the right front bodywork after the crunch. The seller doesn’t tell us anything but you can check out the listing here on eBay where there are some great pictures. Not a complete set, mind you, but some good ones. It’s located in Dallas, Texas, and the vendor is offering it at $45,000 or you can make an offer.
Ouch! If you squint you can still appreciate the Bertone-designed shape! The Giulia SS replaced the earlier and similar appearing Giulietta SS in 1963 and was produced until 1966. Approximately 1,400 of the later version were made, making this a rather rare car. The curvaceous body design has impressed me since the first time I saw a picture of one many years ago.
Although the seller calls the car mainly complete except for the front seats, that status apparently doesn’t include the bodywork on the lower part of the car — unfortunately, there’s a lot of metal missing in that area. The car doesn’t have a windshield either which I’m guessing will be expensive and difficult to source. The engine and transmission are present but on a pallet in unknown condition (and neither are pictured).
I had to show you how beautiful the front of a restored Giulia SS is: this car is for sale at Hymanltd.com for $150,000 — I must not be the only one that appreciates the beauty of the car!
You’ll pretty much be starting from scratch on the inside. I will agree that some of the important items are there. I’m hoping whoever was driving didn’t get hurt much but looking at the bent steering wheel I’m not so sure.
Again, this is downright sad to see. I really hope someone restores this car to its past glory — and soon!
Nice save !!!
Now everyone pull out your wallet for this flipper and pay homage to the over priced vehicle .
I am glad it was saved but not worth it to me for this parts car!
45,000 ? What does he think this is ? One of those way overpriced German wrecks?
italian! not german!! comment ill invormed!
Of course it’s Italian and not German. I think Chuckster was referring to the Way overpriced Porsche shell that is also on BarnFinds and has been the source of much commentary. Get a sense of humor (double exclamation point) And learn to spell!!!! !! !
Ridiculous price. Don’t be silly.
That is a gorgeous design. I have my doubts about whether or not this will ever look like that again.
Not worth $45,000 but perhaps worthy of a Christian burial.
if you could find a right 3/4 nose you would stand A chance. Good luck, Seller has the BJ syndrome…
Somewhere on the internet is the story of one of these that was wrecked and the owner blogged about repairing it. Perhaps it began when baT ( cough cough) had just begun. and it was a thread. I cant remember. It was silver and crunched above the pillars. Maybe someone will find it. Very dedicated buyer!
The guy is known as Mr. Vespa. Here is the link: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-alfa-romeo-sprint-spaciale/. There are links in the article to whole restoration story
You can see one being raced at the Carrera Panamericana by a guy who built one starting with much less than this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBEW5ACgraY
Windshields are available. I believe the same glass fits a Matra djet.
This car is Much worse than what Mr. Vespa started with. For one thing it’s totally rusted out- no floors, crunched frame and a motor from another car- not a veloce engine. I don’t believe the rear end is even attached to the car which is why it’s sitting as it is. I know this because I was in contact with the owner before this guy and tried to buy it as a parts car for my own SS resto project. He told me buyers were “flying in from Europe and Peru” to export it for “a total restoration”. Total BS. Here it is in Texas. It’s been recently sprayed with rattle cans to hide the rest of the rust. I have photos from beforehand. It’s actually got a few worthwhile parts. Just not 45 thousand worth. Yet some dreamer will probably buy this hunk.
The metal work is difficult but doable the glass is the part I would worry about the most. If windshields are available I would get that at the same time I purchased the car.
I have ridden in a couple of these and they are amazing and extremely beautiful as well as aerodynamic. The performance for the day was not bad and the brakes and suspicion will really surprise you as how modern they feel. One of the most amazing parts is that when you have the windows open at a stop light and the car is at idle you can not hear or feel the engine running.
One of the things you will find if you restore a Alfa of this era is the elegance of the engineering and manufacture. The cast alloy oil pans and the oil plugs that all had magnets built in. Manifold bolts that were brass so they would not rust on, twin cam engines with sodium cooled exhaust valves. Transmissions that when warm were like moving a delicate instrument that was perfect for the intended use. I have restored two Alfas of this era and helped with many other so I know them well. These are in many ways mini Ferrari’s in both quality and performance.
These are elegant cars but that being said the present owner has been smoking something that is not presently legal in all states or has some form of mental problem. Given the damage I would suggest 20k would be the max. While this is a 100K to 150K cars when done you are looking at 60 to 80k in parts and repair work.
It is a shame some people have such unrealistic views of the value of what they have. I think that they have no idea how much work is required and how difficult it can be to purchase parts for cars like this. This IS NOT A PARTS CAR but should be restored to full glory and I hope the new owner realizes what he has.
I agree with you that it will probably be restored. But your argument that the price is unrealistic is undone by your own math – even if the restoration comes in at your top estimate of 80K, if the car sells for 45K, that puts the total at 125K – right in the middle of your value range of 100K to 150K.
Hard to see how that squares with the notion that the seller has “some form of mental problem”, or previous posts that it’s “overpriced”, “ridiculous”, and “silly”.
What am I missing?
Hmm… maybe not. Most of us probably browse these posts out of a love and appreciation of classic cars, but not to pay full retail for a massively time-consuming and very expensive project. Seems perfectly reasonable to me for a buyer on the forum to expect a huge (or at least steep) discount on a vehicle, especially when buying something as far gone as this one. If I had the time (the most important and rare asset), the space and the money, pretty much in that order, and I were to bring this car back, it would never be for flipping. It’s truly an amazingly beautiful car and reminds me of a better version of my old NSU Sport Prinz and I’m sure it’s a joy to drive, especially compared to the under-powered Prinz (which I loved and miss, despite the 598 cc engine). My point is that any of that razor-thin potential margin of equity you’re talking about (“…right in the middle of your value range…”) is speculative, for one thing, and theoretical, really, since personally I would never sell it. So, saving $20K on the purchase might make it much more likely that someone would bring this phoenix back from the ashes.
Over here (inc mainland EU) there are nice original matching numbers cars for sub $150k
This will never be that car. It might be worth $100k done if wind blew in right direction? (In admittedly my non Alfa expert opinion)
Do we really think this could be done PROPERLY for even $80k which seems reasonable at first look?
It needs everything… even a high end retrim will cost a fortune. Wheels.. electrics, glass .. hundreds of hours labour…. paint, engine and gearbox work … trim pieces.. all will rack up really quick.
Yes it can be done, but obviously not by most people. The glass will be available because there are quite a few of these around and the values are high, so the tooling will be out there somewhere.
Nothing strange about a 101 series Alfa with rusted out floor etc. Nothing complicated about the mechanicals.
I wouldn´t pay $45000 for this, but then that only means I´m not a customer. Someone else will and as long as they can wait a while and pay the bills, there´ll be another Giulia SS in circulation. Please, not another red one…..
There’s a current auction going on right now for a 1961 Alfa SS on “Bring a Trailer” if anyone cares to follow along. I’m not sure if that site is always representative of the market. The high water mark for this model is over 200K I believe and the prices range anywhere from a low of 90k for a somewhat ratty driver to around 150k in the mid range. This car will NEVER command a premium, even fully restored because it does not have it’s original motor. Still, with only 1399 of these cars produced in the Giulia variation and only a few hundred left in the world any one of these that can be brought back from the dead is probably worth saving. Just don’t expect to get your money back.
too much money. For that price I’d go for a newer Guilia or Stevia, stripped down.
God what hit it???
Tha tRHS front panel shot reminds me of the Late James Dean crash.