The Chevy Camaro turned out to be a worthy competitor to the Ford Mustang when it debuted in 1967. For its first generation, 1967-69, the Camaro would see production of more than 840,000 units. For 1969, assemblies were extended through the end of the calendar year due to production delays bringing the second generation online. 28,000 Z/28 Camaro’s were built that last year of the Swinging Sixties, with many of them wearing the X33 code on the cowl tag to signify it was a Z. The seller’s car, located in Yuma, Arizona and wearing one of those tags, is a challenging project at best, but can be valuable when fully restored. For that reason, the asking price for this car is $30,000, here on Facebook Marketplace. Thanks, rex m, for discovering this tip for us!
The Camaro Z/28 was created for use in the Sports Car Club of America’s (SCCA) new Trans-Am road racing series. For 1969, it was fitted with a finely tuned motor, a 302 cubic inch V8 that used solid lifters, a dual exhaust system and a 4-barrel Holley carburetor that produced 290 hp and 290 lbs.-ft. of torque. Added to that, the Z/28s got dual stripes on the hood and trunk, wide red-stripe tires, Rally wheels and an uprated suspension.
This ’69 Z/28 has been sitting for more than 20 years, and many parts have been removed, some of which may be in the trunk or the passenger cabin. The windshield and back glass may be gone as is the grill, taillights, both bumpers and the door handles. This may indicate an earlier attempt to begin a restoration that never really got underway. We’re not treated to any photos of the interior, so there is no telling if something is missing there, too. There is plenty of surface rust and bird droppings and indications of rust at least in the passenger side rear quarter panel.
The cowl tag says this car is a Z/28 due to the X33 code that also shows the car having been assembled at the former Norwood, Ohio plant. The seller hypothesizes this is also a JL-8 car, which would be for 4-wheel disc brakes. Sources on the internet suggest that no more than 200 1969 Camaro’s were built with them. It would be easy for the seller to verify this by pulling one of the rear wheels off and checking for discs or drums. The estimated mileage on the car is 80,000.
At some point, the exterior of the car wore black paint with a matching interior, a nice combination. This Camaro is said to be paired with a manual transmission, which should make it a Muncie 4-speed. These Z/28s are highly sought after, perhaps more than any other Camaro from the first generation. Online price guides are showing them in the high five-figures, and one is currently up for auction with a reported 1,000 miles on it going for $128,000. So, there is a lot of upside potential for this car, but at what price to get there?
You know, you can’t get what you want unless you ask for it, but I’m thinking $800.
lol.
I bought a brand new Camaro with RS package and the SS package, it cost me about $2700, a few years later I bought a ’72 Z28, that was only $3600.
Looks like the car has been used for a litter box
Those must have been some cool cats though.
Any idea what the original color codes were? And, the seller wants the buyer to drink the Kool-Aid, not him.
Code 61 Burnished Brown with a code E Parchment vinyl top.
Not a exactly a sporty combo, more like something you’d see on a
’70s Monte Carlo.
The tag indicates exterior paint code 61 which would be “Burnished Brown”. Not sure I’ve ever seen that color.
Tom Howard….
Sure you’ve seen that brownish color….It’s called….
PUKE!
Original color was burnished brown, a nice color. Is not a Z intake or carb.
A quadrajet on DZ 302?? I don’t think so…..
Paint code 61- Burnished Brown , E -white vinyl top, 711 – black std interior . I’ve seen asking prices for JL8 , 20 – 25,000 , just the rear.
Who cares about the color, the codes, this, and that!
The car is way off the mark for pricing and you would need to smoke some cheap drugs to pay this amount of cash!
Stuff like this is why the car hobby is getting out of reach for the average person.
If you have more money than brains, buy it and drop $100,000 to fix it, Put it on a turntable and ask $200,000 and you might get an offer of 150,000
Another laughable car offered on Facebook. The owner either 1. Is on drugs. 2. Has a great sense of humor. 3. Or figures ‘Why not try asking a ridiculous price…it can’t hurt.’
Assuming the drivetrain is original, offer $25K, spend another $15K on a Dynacorn body, and you’re in it for $40K, which is still below what Hagerty quotes for a #4 Z28.
Some of you folks need to adjust your perceptions to the realities of the market. We may not think it’s worth $30K, but my guess is that someone will offer close to that amount, again assuming the drivetrain is original.
Sorry but I choose to adjust my perceptions to REALITY, not the insanity of some sellers perception of value and worth…fixed that for ya. (but that’s just me)
Have a great day!
If someone pays close to the seller’s price, that IS the reality. There. Fixed it for ya.
Hell just crawl under it+C if its got disc on the rear or look thru the holes a the rally wheels……I’ll bet it don/t……..that guy is dream’n…
And smog cylinder heads from the 1970s – so those aren’t camel hump heads. Probably a 350 out of a 70’s Vette or Truck.
I agree with the price being high for this roach, but if it is a real z with rear disc brakes I think they only made a couple hundred of them? Correct me on this. if you were really interested in bringing back this dawg go look at it and make them an offer. I cant think that the underbelly is non existant after laying on the ground, great pics by the way. IIRC, Reggie Jackson had a rear disc brakes equipped camaro, and it brought a pile of coin because of the brakes. Hate to play the devils advocate especially on something this clapped out. good luck and stay safe. get a tetanus shot if you go look at this.
Cheers
GPC
Why is the cowl tag rivets missing???? Hmmmmm
They aren’t, they are there. The dum dum putty is missing or wasn’t put on originally though.
Rear drum brakes for sure. You can see the drum through the rim.
I’m no expert, but on a Corvette (disc/disc) the master cylinder has two cavities of the same size, where as, a disc/drum car has one big cavity and one small cavity for brake fluid. Looks like a disc/drum master cylinder on this one. Update. I just checked the parts store and this car has a disc/drum master. Also, you could get a ’69 with drum/drum, according to the parts store, so maybe that’s his thoughts..LOL..
That’s a replacement master cylinder, not the one factory installed on a 69 Z/28.
All 69 Z/28’s used a Delco “309” casting master cylinder, with the code “US” stamped on the front. The 309’s front and rear reservoirs are the exact same size. A reducer was installed in the casting at the rear line fitting, to balance the front to rear pressure.
Externally the 309 looks identical to the “346” and “509” master cylinders used on 68-72 Corvettes. The 309 uses the same MC cap and gasket as 67-82 Corvette master cylinders.
While some Camaros did come with drum/drum brakes, all 67-69 Z/28’s came standard with power disc/drum.
Toast. Look at the fender gap. Where would you start . Nothing to see here. Disney dreaming.
Come on now, The Oldsmobile rims should be worth something, shouldn’t they?
OOOOOHHHHHH YEAHHHH!
the rims should offset the difference for the price of the car!
At least one to many zero’s in the price.