For many classic car enthusiasts, one of the questions to answer when planning to restore a car is whether to make it show quality or driver quality. This car has received many upgrades to the mechanics and interior, but the current owner has kept the exterior as it was when he bought it, so he wouldn’t have to worry about damage when driving. It’s still a great-looking car, and can be found for sale in Newburgh, New York, here on eBay. The current bid is just over $15,000, with 1 day left.
The owner claims this is a GTX, but after a bit of investigation I believe this is a standard Belvedere. The VIN doesn’t specify trim level. Can anyone confirm this? I don’t see the GTX-specific exterior upgrades, and we are also told this car came with a 318 engine originally, when the GTX had the 440 as standard with the 426 HEMI optional. If this were a GTX, it would be 1 of 12,115 examples made in 1967. If a standard Belvedere, it’s 1 of 115,702. Perhaps the owner wanted to give it GTX performance, but I would definitely want clarification on this before making a purchase.
As mentioned, the exterior of this car is the only thing that has not been restored. The seller says it has had a repaint at some point, in a shade that was very close to the factory color. There are a couple bubbles forming above the rear wheel arches, and a few areas of minor surface rust and scratches. The underside is apparently free of rust which is a huge selling point, and all of the chrome trim is still in good condition.
This Plymouth currently has a 383 cubic inch big block engine installed, mated to a 4 speed manual transmission. The engine and transmission have approximately 5,000 miles since being rebuilt. Upgrades include aluminum radiator, mini starter, Edelbrock intake and carburetor, ignition system, and lots more. The front end has been rebuilt, and a new brake system has been installed. Almost nothing needs to be done to this car from a mechanical standpoint. The only thing the seller mentions is that the heater box is not currently installed, but does come included with the car.
The interior of this Belvedere looks great with the two-tone red on black. The carpet has been replaced, and the seats have been recovered in the pattern found on the 1966 Dodge Coronet. The dash is uncracked and all trim and headliner has either been replaced by the seller or is still in good condition. The only item that needs to be addressed is a nonfunctional speedometer, which supposedly just needs a new cable.
If this were yours, would you restore the exterior or drive it as-is?
There are good and bad about this car. The good, they didn’t try and pass it off as a GTX, it has a 4spd, it sits well and seems to be somewhat sorted out. It’s basically a presentable driver.
The bad, it has indeterminate rust issue. No heater, no speedometer with some questionable choices, such as the battery in the trunk and 3” exhaust.
It might be a decent buy, depending on how bad the rust is and how long it will be before it needs to be addressed.
Steve R
First, The GTX NEVER Had a 318, The GTX also had a RED, WHITE and BLUE Emblem in /on the center bar of the grill, GTX was under the Belvedere on the front fenders and stand alone on the Right Rear Trunk. They also had Twin Dummy Scoops on the hood. If this started as a 318 CAR It most likely was a 3 speed. The engine was swapped, most likely the tranny was also.
You close your ears to the hoopla and believe what your eyes are telling you. This is a driver quality 1967 Belvedere with a 383 and four speed. A summer car so no heater, no problem.
Love your site but you have one extremely unforgivable and unprofessional habit and that is posting cars that have already been sold! STOP IT! UNPROFESSIONAL! GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER!
Mr. Mac Cracken, with all due respect, I believe you’re missing the point of this website.
If it bothers you that much, pay the few measly bucks it costs to become a member and enjoy Early Access to all of the posts.
Or, do your own research and find the cars that you specifically like so that you will see the listings before they expire.
This is a car fans site, not an auction house.
I don’t believe the word Magnum should be under the hood of a Plymouth.
Frankendere………..which is fine.
Somebody obviously thought so, they bought it.
As for complaining about the car being sold……….
STOP IT! UNPROFESSIONAL! RESPECT THE EFFFORTS THAT GO INTO THIS SITE.
Give a whiner a keyboard………
It is a nice looking build.
I had a 383 four speed Satelite. It was a neat car. No rust issues either.
SOLD for $17,600.
Nice Belvedere, Considering condition and equipment it looks like someone got a decent deal.
What grates my cheese it the seller listing it as a GTX. It is not going to do anything other diminish my initial opinion of the seller. It’s a turnoff for me. Logically it causes me to be skeptical of every other claim made. Fair or not, I’ll be less likely to part with my money. Why start a potential business transaction negatively trying to overcome self sabotage? Like it or not I’ll be thinking that a seller who does this is some kind of idiot.
Interesting point Miguel on the term ” magnum “,under the hood of a Plymouth so let’s open the “can”of knowledge now,I consider myself pretty knowledgeable, but I know the terms,and nickname’s etc.have changed through the years,and there were early magnum engines starting in the sixties, to later magnum engines from around the late 80’s until 03,I will leave the right and complete answer to a more knowledgeable person as to if Plymouth actually had a ” magnum ” engine under its hood,I say yes with this car being modified from its original state, it doesn’t count but for a fact 5 engines have been called magnum at some point,318,340,360,383 and 440,of course 318 and 360 magnums were called that in the later years,better experts please chime in,I relish getting knowledge on this forum,thanks in advance.
I do believe, Kevin, that while Dodge used the word Magnum, Plymouth used the word Commando in these years.
A 1963 Dodge would have a 383 Magnum under the hood while the Plymouth would have a Commando 383 under its hood.
Well Miguel,that’s true on the commando,there were also some called super commando, I’m thinking the early 2-barrel were commando, and 4-barrel was super commando,then there was Chrysler which had the 383 as golden lion,and 440 hp as TNT,again I believe magnum on pre 1980 stuff was for hp engines, more specifically the 383 and 440 I’m going to do some research, and in the meantime, I’m waiting on my fellow mopar people to chime in.
One of my favorite mopars. Had a 67 wagon 30 years ago, slant six and a 3 spd combo with a bench seat a friend had put together.
This one looks in great shape with the big block 383, 4 spd and bucket seats. Killer. Somebody got a nice car.
I was just researching to find what color my car is for some touch up. Clicked on the picture of this one thinking “ that looks real similar. Wait a second that my car…haha I just purchased it and couldn’t be happier. Entire suspension, fuel system, brake system, interior tires all brand new. The wiring is complete and tidy everything works but the Speedo and heat. Runs rides and drives extremely nice. First Mopar and first hot rod. It’ll be getting driven and taken care of