You don’t see too many 1977 Pontiac LeMans on the road anymore. This example is not too bad but is not running and needs some work. It is for sale here on Facebook Marketplace for $5,000. The seller has no title but says it is in his or her “people’s name.” The car resides in Cleveland, Ohio and has been listed for a week. The seller states that the car has 68,000 miles.
There are multiple pictures of the car on a flat tow bed but no explanation as of why. The other pictures show the car in a driveway. As can be seen, the car is red with a red or burgundy interior. The car rides on Pontiac 15×7 snowflake wheels. This generation of LeMans was built from 1973 to 1977 and is considered a colonnade body style. There are no under the hood or undercarriage pictures. The seller says the engine needs to be finished but provides no details.
The interior pictures indicate that the interior is in fair shape with bucket seats and a console. The car has manual windows, air conditioning, and a console-operated automatic transmission. I think the car has tilt steering and an aftermarket radio. The base engine in the LeMans for 1977 was the new Pontiac 301 cubic inch V8 engine. It was not very powerful generating only 155 horsepower with a 4 barrel carburetor. Optional engines included the Pontiac 350 cubic inch V8 engine and the L78 Pontiac 400 cubic inch V8 engine. In California, engine options were a Buick V6 or Oldsmobile 350 cubic inch V8 engine or 403 cubic inch V8 engine.
The Pontiac LeMans was named after the famous 24 hours of LeMans race held in the French city of Le Mans, France. The first LeMans was introduced in 1963 and Pontiac produced 6 generations of the car (nonconsecutive years) until 1993. This car represents the 4th generation of the LeMans and was also the base car for the sporty 1977 Pontiac Can Am That was built in limited numbers and came with a Pontiac 400 cubic inch V8 engine unless you were in California and received the Oldsmobile 403 cubic inch V8 engine.
Another great deal for a Pontiac, this is the best of the Collonades. 455 and a 4/5 speed, or an LS.
Hard pass. The seller is telling you they can’t be bothered getting a title even though it’s her her “people’s name”. Good luck with that. No clear pictures of rust prone areas though there is the obligatory picture of the speedometer to verify mileage. The ad is telegraphing the headache begins the second a buyer hands over payment. The cars isn’t special enough or cheap enough to deal with.
Steve R
I wouldn’t bother getting a title for a 1000 car, but when you want five grand and the neighborhood probably feels the way I think, the buyer better get a title.
In Ohio you have to have a title, a bill of sale isn’t worth much more than the paper it’s written on.
I believe anyone would be foolish to even consider buying this car after I read the original ad on Marketplace.
The way i interpreted the writeup, it doesn’t even belong to the seller?
It’s belongs to some of ‘my people’, it’s sitting in my driveway, it’s probably inoperable, so I’m just going to sell it?
I noticed the hood was up on the vehicle next to the Pontiac.
Perhaps they think they will just sell ‘my peoples’ car and use the money to repair the one beside the Pontiac?
Not surprising that it’s been listed for sale for awhile?
Run Forrest Run!
Just my oponion!
Love those cars, but it sounds like it’s balled up in some kind of family drama. The seller would maybe get close on the price if they got the paperwork lined up properly. Been there, done that. Not worth the headache
No title no sale!!!
I bought a 76 lemans in 1983 and it had a 260 olds motor in it. It was the most gutless car I ever owned.
When I worked in the Sears Auto Center in the late 1980s, an old lady came in with one of these, a coupe with buckets and console, and a 400 4bbl. She was the original owner. It was in beautiful shape, always garaged, and had low mileage. If I remember correctly, it was milk chocolate brown, with a tan vinyl interior. I wonder what ever happened to it.
Chocolate brown, like the sheriff’s car in Smokey And The Bandit? I like the front end styling but the pictures showing this car being loaded onto a flatbed aren’t a good sign.
Wow I had completely forgotten that big brown sled that ol’ Buford T Justice drove pretty much into the ground in that flick, but that’s one that’s on my list of favorites, mainly because I’m a Jackie Gleason fan, and he nailed it! Funny how that car isn’t one you typically see for sale these days, unlike the car it was perpetually chasing in the movie, which is a hot seller if in superb condition (I’ve seen nice ones go for 6 figures). Maybe you could get this one and redo it like the sheriff’s car and incite some fun conversations at a cars n coffee … But ya still need a title. This one screams ‘sketchy’ very loudly, I wonder how his ‘people’ feel about him selling it, or if they’re even around to care. I kinda like the lines of these, if you could get it a bit cheaper and put a mill under the hood (sounds like it needs one), this one would be a neat sleeper, cuz as I remember, nobody was lining these up to race back in the day.
At best, this is a $500 parts car. Unless it’s one of those cars that was destined to be converted into a Can Am, back before the rear spoiler mold got broken. Restoration and repair parts for these cars are crazy hard to find.
“My people?” Um…bring two friends with you that have CCP’s, make sure it’s light outside, and don’t bring cash money. Just sayin’.
I’m guessing that if you show up with a flatbed, load it up and drive off . . . . . no one would complain. Probably wouldn’t even report it stolen, given that there doesn’t seem to be any ownership documentation. Wish I knew where it “lives” . . . . . I need parts for mine.
Don’t lowball me, “I know what I got here.”
Pontiac sure had some nice OEM rim designs. Unfortunately, from personal experience, I would never again buy a 70s or newer vehicle without a title, registration, and proof of passing emissions testing.
I also wouldn’t buy one from an angry or lazy seller. I’ve seen a lot of these ads lately where they seem like they’re telling us their value outweighs ours. Anything more than $0 is more than $0 in my opinion.
Most states DON’T require emmissions testing on classic/antique cars. My state (Pennsylvania) doesn’t. Doesn’t require testing on ANY car that is driven less than 5000 miles per anum. . . . .
5K doesn’t buy much in a classic car anymore. Needs much more informative pictures to determine if it is even worth that much.
But no title is always going to be a gamble.
Don’t need a title for a parts car and, according to the VERY limited description AND the possibility of a damaged/incomplete engine, this is not much more than a parts car . . . . . a $500 parts car.