Solid Frame and New Floors: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28

Someone way back in history cried, “Go west, young man!” Now, I need to convince you to ignore that advice. If you do go west, then you probably won’t be heading towards a classic car that has been listed for sale here on eBay. Perhaps you need to think about going north instead. At least, you do if you would like to own this 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28. You see, that’s because it is located in Brantford, Canada. However, it does come with a clear US title, so that’s pretty reassuring. The owner has set a BIN price of C$27,900, but the option is there to make an offer.

The owner says that this is a real-deal Z28, not a clone. He also says that the floors and frame are now nice and solid. The car has been fitted with a new driver’s side floor and trunk pan. I’ve had a good look at the photos, and I would probably want to take a good look at the work, as the welds do look a bit untidy. It might just need a bit of judicious work with a grinder to set things right, but I would certainly be checking. There is also some rust present in the quarter panels that will need to be addressed, but the rest looks fairly promising. The owner says that the car will need a new windshield, but that the rest of the glass is good.

The interior is also a bit of an unknown, so I have sort of pieced together what I can tell from the photos. It doesn’t look like there is any carpet, and the original radio and some switches are missing from the dash. The lenses on some of the gauges look cloudy, but the dash pad looks like it might be okay, along with the upholstery on the seats. What isn’t clear is the condition of the door trims, the headliner, and some of the other trim items. However, replacement parts are pretty easy to source if anything is missing or damaged.

The owner says that the Camaro is fitted with a good 302ci V8 and a 4-speed M21 transmission. He isn’t clear whether the engine and transmission are original, but he does say that the 12-bolt rear end is. The engine might be fine, but there’s still some work to do before the Z28 moves under its own power. I don’t see any fuel or brake lines, throttle linkages, distributor, or exhaust. I’m not sure if these items are present and not installed, or if these are things that will need to be added to the shopping list.

I’m not quite sure what to make of this Camaro. If it is a numbers-matching car, then it is a pretty desirable piece of gear. For me, the biggest question marks hang over the quality of the installation of the replacement floors, and that’s something that I would want to examine pretty carefully. An inspection is also going to be essential to verify just how long the shopping list of parts is going to be if this car is ever to fire a shot in anger again. What do our readers think? Do we have any that are game to take it on?

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  1. flmikey

    That welding job looks like something I did in high school welding class…and from reading the ad, I highly doubt the engine/trans are original..otherwise, they would say it in Big letters…

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  2. CCFisher

    Is that an “RS” I see on the steering wheel? If so, shouldn’t it have hidden headlights?

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    • Dan

      It doesn’t have the RS taillights though…

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    • Llouis200

      Mine did and it was original.

      • MrZL1

        Not with out reverse tail lights

  3. Lynn Dockey Member

    Must have rear bumper guards and staggered shocks. Only 302 and 375hp 396 had them OEM. Lots of work to change the shocks

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    • 68custom

      yes it is missing bumper guards, but all 68/69 camaro’s had staggered shocks. need to see the trim tag and I think records exist to verify Canadian Z/28s. lots of research to do before plunking down the cash, and clearly it is not an RS-Z/28.

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  4. 71FXSuperGlide

    Could be wrong, but did ’69 302’s come with the front oil fill tube? I don’t think so.

    For the right person, might be a good buy instead of yet another clone, assuming some of the key details check out.

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  5. Dustin Lisner

    If its real why doesn’t he show the trim tag, also correct me if I’m wrong but this car was featured a while back with the same pictures.

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    • gbvette62

      The trim tag might help, depending on when and where the car was built. Only Norwood OH 69’s got an X code to identify a Z/28, SS, etc, and then it was only Norwood cars built from mid December 68 on. LA cars and Norwood cars built prior to mid Dec. 68, didn’t have any identifying codes.

      The VIN indicates that this is a Norwood car, so there is a chance the trim tag would identify it as a Z/28.

    • 69 GR Camaro

      This car is from the Tom Brown collection in Michigan via Vanderbrink Auctions

  6. Steve H.

    So if the steering wheel has the RS logo but Z28 badging is present elsewhere on the car, doesn’t that raise red flags about it being a true Z car?

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  7. Llouis200

    I had Z28 with RS from the factory. It had hideaway headlights different taillights and some other add one.

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  8. Camaro Joe

    71FX SuperGlide, you’re correct. A 69 302 did not have the oil filler tube, the oil fill is in the passenger’s side valve cover. I have three DZ block 302’s, two in 69 Z/28’s and one in a 57 Bel Air. I’ve probably put hundreds of quarts of oil in those valve covers over the years.

    The valve covers on that motor aren’t correct either, they should be aluminum with cast in ribs. If it is a real 302, my first guess is it’s a 1968 motor. That’s an “MO” code ,but that’s only an uneducated guess, I only know 1969’s.

    If it is a real “DZ” code 302 block you can get an idea if it might be numbers matching by looking at the engine build date. The four numbers before “DZ” on the engine stamp are the day and month it was built. There’s lots of info out there on which VIN numbers were built in a particular month. If the engine code is a few days so before that car’s VIN number was built, it’s probably the original block.

    There’s usually a partial VIN number stamped on the block down by the oil filter, but it’s easier to look at the code in front of the passenger’s side cylinder head, compare it to the VIN number build date, and see if it’s close before you put it on a lift and go looking.

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  9. Tom

    If it is a Z28, there should not be any badging like the RS on the steering wheel. Cowl hood was an option on Z28 cars, but was only available in 69. Little things that help identify original equipment are the tach redline, 4 speed tranny, dual exhaust pads on rear wheel well frame, numbers on the tranny, carb, and DZ cast into the block passenger side front pad. Otherwise its a 69 camaro with a 12 bolt rear end, and that is not a bad thing.

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  10. Camaro Joe

    Tom, The seller says it’s a real X-33 cowl tag car, but didn’t take a picture of it. The tach isn’t clealry visible, but it looks like a 6,000 RPM redline Z/28 tach to me. But that’s my guess at best without a clear picture. Your idea of calling it a small block, 4 speed, 12 bolt car is probably spot on unless you look at everything in person..

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