Under its various brands, Chrysler built some very eyecatching and over the top cars, but the Superbird and it’s Daytona sibling could be the wildest ones of the bunch! When they were new, these Winged Warriors struggled to find owners, but today, they are highly sought after collector’s items. As with most collectibles, you rarely see them on the street. While this example could fetch good money, if it turns out to be the real deal that is, but the seller states that it is no trailer queen and should be driven. You can take a closer look at it here on eBay in Sumter, South Carolina with a BIN of $115,000 and an opening bid of $85,000.
Before you go hit that Buy-It-Now button, you are going to want to do your homework on this one. The seller states that it’s a real Superbird and that the VIN is in the NASCAR registry, but that the build sheet was removed to be used in another car. That leaves us with a number of questions. Is this one legitimate or a VIN swap? And is there’s another Plymouth driving around with the same VIN? That could explain the lack of bidding.
It will take an expert and lots of research to find out if this is what the seller claims or not. If it is, it would be an impressive find. It’s not a 426 Hemi car, but 440 4-barrel cars still fetch big money. Overall, it looks to be in decent shape, although there is clearly some bodywork and poor old restoration work. The seller provides a good look at the underside and it does appear to be fairly solid. So, it will come down to authenticating it which could be a challenge. I’d love for our Mopar experts to weigh in on this one!
After reading the eBay listing, I am surprised to see that there are numerous bidders who have driven the price up to $85k. Perhaps they have been in contact with the seller, and are satisfied that this car is authentic. The “build sheet went to another car” line is certainly concerning. Why? Which other car? How does the seller know this? This isn’t trivial, given the high value of real Superbirds and Charger Daytona’s.
It’s also not the original engine, and the holes in the trunk floor mean it,(and who knows what else) are rotted out.
I smell a rat sleeping in a box of red flags. Nose cone seam filled in to make it look smoother? Or to hide something? Use the build sheet for another car and brag about it? Advertise it on eBay not Hemmings? Strike three yer out!
How to say NOM …
Oh right Date Coded-motor
Or
factory replacement
Or
NOM restamped motor
Or
original motor decked bit really original
Either way to me that 112 is minus 20 grand 💰
If its real (show spec sheet) hire an inspection 👀
I’m baffled by the situation with the build sheet. This seems to be a nicely kept Superbird, so why would you ever transfer the build sheet to another car? My guess is that this car is the clone, and the original, too-far-gone Superbird from which the VIN was lifted had no build sheet.
These were always impressive cars but who would give someone there build sheet or buy a car without one???? Was it sold so many years ago he didn’t care??? I would think even way back when you would want to know your not buying a clone!!
You guys are misunderstanding the seller. He states, “build sheet under the seat went to another car.” That is to say there was a build sheet, but it wasn’t the one for this car. When these cars came down the assembly line, there was often many seats already assembled and awaiting cars to go into. It was common for the build sheets to wind up in the wrong cars. When we searched my sons aar cuda, he found 2 correct build sheets and another one for a different car.
Really? I owned a 70 B body and it had the correct build sheet under the seat, every other car I have ever had did too. Too easy to make a clone, so why the big prices? People should only be willing to pay clone prices, in fact, they are going to be better put together than the original ones anyway. We need to get the rich boys out of the game so they can “invest” elsewhere. That way the real people who love a certain car can own and cherish them. As far as originality, I could care less what it came with from Hamtrack, all I care about is how it is now.
No, we’re interpreting the seller’s poor choice of words correctly, but you are probably correct that the build sheet “belonged to” another car.
I’ve never heard of that happening before Nick P. It’s plausible what your saying but then how do you get the correct one after all these years??? Also how can you prove (or disprove) that certain things weren’t added to the car????
Last year I bought a barn find 1969 Plymouth Road Runner convertible that had a build sheet under the back seat from a GTX that was built 82 units earlier. I understand this happened all the time.
This did happen. I bought a RH23 parts car and the broadcast sheet under the rear seat was for another car. At the same time I found its correct build sheet on top of the glove box.
Back in 1980’s getting ready to part out my 70 Torino GT I pulled the back seat bottom curious if the build sheet was there. Found the sheet and a folded crisp like new 1969 $20 bill in-between the springs and pad fabric. Still have both.
Seems odd to me. Just how hard would it be to clone a Superbird anyways?
Intimidated the high banks of NASCAR as much as it scared off potential customers I read somewhere a few of these sat on dealer lots for several years collecting dust. Others removed the wing, anything really to unload them.
Probably the single most dominant stock car, untouchable on the super speedway’s.
Troy, watch this video. Uncle Tony shows, on a Daytona Charger, all the differences between a normal Charger 500 and the Daytona. It is very informative.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxnUdr_iNpU
Yes, the Superbirds were a little different, but most of the changes stayed the same.
I just spent the time (even though I’m working) watching that video Miguel and learned a lot of different things about the Daytona that I had no idea about!! Thanks for sharing it!! Very informative!!
It wasn’t so much that the build sheets were misplaced at the factory but where the Roadrunners were converted into Superbirds. When they were welding in the rear window plug for the aerodynamic rear glass they certainly didn’t keep the rear seat in them. And since most were the same and they were under great time constraints to have 2000 built before they could be raced in NASCAR you can bet they grabbed the closest seat and stuck it in.
Fairly common for another vehicle’s build sheet to be found in Mopars. Nothing unusual there. Mopars were assembled at different plants and all had different procedures. Los Angeles built cars rarely have build sheets. They were actually to be removed as the cars were built, meant as guides for the assembly line workers.
Some are found behind seats, some behind glove boxes and some under carpets. Many cars have multiple build sheets and some like this one, build sheets for different cars.
Do a little research and you’ll see how common it is for Mopars to have build sheets for different cars.
I trust Mark Worman. He confirmed it.
https://twitter.com/GYC_Mark/status/1293010999780417539?s=19
Even though the show is unwatchable, mainly due to his childish behavior as portrayed on the show, I’d defer to his expertise when it comes to authenticating a car.
Steve R
I’ve produced reality TV before, and the “childish behavior” (as seen on this show, Pawn Stars and others) is part of what makes it watchable. I once did a pilot for someone with no personality and it was a train wreck. I don’t think there’s any question that Worman knows his stuff.
Ok, so knowing the museum-level cars he builds the pinholes in the trunk floor don’t sound right to me.
“I sold the guy this car. That’s a great price!” is not a confirmation that it is a real Superbird.
Sounds like Mark is threading a needle with that less than helpful comment. “My lawyer says I can confirm I sold him the car and the price is great.”
@Miguel,
👍🏿 Good stuff…Its always nice to see the real deal. After watching the video, it puts this advertised unit in a lower tier for me. I know these bring strong money, but there are quite a few quirky areas that warrant a thorough going over before one parts with their hard earned money.
Probably an old Plymouth Satellite made into a bird… plates can be changed you know… I wouldnt trust this guy as far as I could throw him..
Thats not as easy as it sounds . The rear glass on Superbirds are bowed out for aerodnamics , while the other B bodies are not. Plymouth had to do some surgery on the roof of each Superbird, and they all had vinyl put on the roof to cover the work up. The rear deck is different too where the bottom of the glass meets it.
He shows pictures of the radiator Cross member VIN stamp, the left rear drip rail VIN stamp, the VIN plate itself with correct rivets, the fender tag and the trans VIN stamp.
All seem to be correct. If someone was going to rebody a Superbird why would they go to all that trouble with a body that needs this much work.
I suspect it’s just an old original car. As for the broadcast sheet being different from the car. It happened all the time with Mopars.
Would be fun to make a clone with a Slant Six and three on the tree.
Opening the bonnet on a Mopar meet and show them what you got,,🤪
That six cylinder clone idea would be best for April Fools. Yous guys!
Why use a clone? Take a real SB and save it from a hard life, turn it into what it always should have been. My lottery dream, is to buy up all sorts of original cars like this and have some engine fun. If I became famous for my “art”, when I die, would the cars be worth more because of notoriety?
Sold at auction last month and already being flipped.
Just goes to show, these are not being purchased for the love of them, purchased for all the wrong reasons…part of the sickness that has infected our hobby. I really miss the good old days.