In the late sixties or early seventies if you wanted a fast car with a touch of luxury the GTX was a good choice. Box stock they would get you to 60 in less than 7 seconds and through a quarter mile in less than 15 seconds. There have been a number of GTXs featured here on Barnfinds in various states of despair so let’s compare “dis pair” and see if you think there as any hope for either of them. First, we have a 1967 GTX with the standard 375 HP 440 and an automatic transmission. It was in a barn for 30 years and is in need of a complete restoration. The engine runs, the numbers all match and it’s said to be a solid car. It is listed on Craigslist or here on adsaver) in East Tennessee, east of Knoxville, for $11,500.
This 1970 GTX is listed on eBay in Placerville California. The bidding is currently over $12,000 with the reserve not met and a couple of days to go. The auction states “non-matching auto fender tag” which could mean several troubling issues. The words “build sheet” follows the words “non-matching auto fender tag ” but the seller’s sentences are all run together so there’s no way to know what he means. The engine runs well, there’s only surface rust and the floors look good. There’s no mention of any interior pieces that might be included in the sale.
Here’s the underside of the 1967 GTX. It looks like rust and holes in this picture.
Here’s the underside of the 1970 GTX. There appears to be only surface rust. Pictures in the listing show the
Here’s a peek under the hood of the 1967 GTX. It looks mostly original and complete except for the air cleaner, of course.
Here’s the 1970 GTX. It looks to be in about the same except in orange. It appears to have a new coil and a brake master cylinder. This engine is said to run like new.
You have a choice here between the more angular style 1967 GTX or the more rounded style introduced in 1968. Is there any hope for either of these? Both cars are automatics with the 375 HP V8. The 1967 GTX seems to have rust issues and the quality of the bodywork is suspect. The 1970 GTX looks a little better but it’s apparently not numbers matching and the fender tag doesn’t match something. The words “build sheet” follows the words “non-matching auto fender tag ” but the seller’s sentences are all run together so there’s no way to know what he means. They both run. Bidding on the 1970 GTX is over $12,000 and has not met the seller’s reserve. Several driver quality cars have sold on eBay for between $14,000 and $20,000. There are several listed on Craigslist with similar asking prices like this Butterscotch 1971 GTX. Either might make a good project, but the prices seem too high to make them worthwhile.
I prefer the body styling of the 67. They are very sleek looking.
67 brings back so many memories. Had a red one .white interior. automatic. 426 hemi. Loved that car so much. Real beauty. Sold that car .for pennies. Big mistake in my life.
I just took my 67 GTX out for a drive today. Always a pleasure. Hence, the 67 gets my vote.
I like the styling of the 67 better but hate major bodywork (RUST) but I also don’t like people who can’t write a AD to sell their car and most likely when you call them their vocabulary won’t be much better which might mean Jim Bob moved to the west coast. I would pass on both.
I think the seller of the 1970 GTX just didn’t use punctuation. I’d bet he meant non-matching numbers, trim tag, build sheet. Last time he sent the car through auction he listed it as a 1971 and showed different pictures, a potential buyer would be wise to spend a few minutes looking at that eBay listing too.
Get both for 30k, another 40K into them, and be lucky to get 70K at auction for both.
Non- original engine but era correct be lowest value.
MOPARS always sell.
440 375 hp was advertised but reality was just over 400 hp, with the tripower (6brl) 440 390hp pushing 450, when new.
Been watching Mechum and values are down, having to remove reserves and can tell owners not re-couping investments.
IMNSHO, The pricing had gone ridiculous and today only the best and rarest bring highest bucks
A lot of it was indeed the flippers, many many people out here who can buy damn near all replacement parts and panels, align ore cosmeticly parts and have access to painting skills they have.
Also it seems the collectors and high rollers demographics is changing, as is whole of US economy.
I’d buy the 67, but not for the asking price. I’ve always liked that body. I had a 67 Satellite 440, 4 speed, posi rear back in the day. Was great fun, 35-38 cents a gallon for 100+ octane everywhere! Yes, it needs floors, so do them, and drive it like you stole it! Have some fun while you can.
@Mike R in DE – I get soooo tired of people ballyhooing the fact that gasoline was $.35/gal. I have bought gas for $.28/gal. At the time, I was earning minimum wage – $1.00/hr. Let’s take a median of yours and my numbers, say, $.30/gal.
Now days, gas is (let’s say) $3.00/gal. Most lower level wage earners make $10.00/hr!
Yes, boys and girls, THEY ARE THE SAME. Gas costs what it always has.
Let this be the last time anyone points to how cheap gas used to be.
Wow- 2 of my favorite cars styles but for different reasons. If the build sheet on the 70 and the Body tag don’t match it be indicative of a serious problem such as a switched VIN at some point in it’s life to hide the true identity of car which could be stolen. Oops there goes the cop in me again ! Oh well 2 cool cars for sure.
yes. i remember during the 70s .growing up in nycity. a lot of that was going on. you had to be very aware when you were buying a car.
Why does “number’s matching” mean so much to so many people..?
If a car was really “hot”,it got drove as such,and many owners blew their engines,often to a point of non repairability,often when vehicle was fairly new.
As long as it is the correct vintage/c.i.d engine block,I don’t have a problem
with it,as a great deal of these “classics” are not even 80%original anyways.
I love both of these cars,but like the 67 style better.
I’ve always preferred the 66/7 Plymouth body style over earlier/later versions…….both cars are cool nonetheless, I LOVE old iron!! SAD to see them left to such a rough state……
Numbers matching means all original major component parts mainly engine and transmission. I guess from a collectors point of view it has the most value but for a true car guy I say. Who Cares ! I agree with you an equivalent or better engine and tranny to me is great. I love cars and enjoy looking at them but for me I get bored with that. Working on them or driving them is the fun of it. There are all kinds of car lovers for their varied reasons so I respect the purists who preserve these classics and having a few all original classics has been enjoyable but the most enjoyment I have is having a driver quality car that I don’t have to worry about beating on it and breaking some irreplaceable numbers matching motor or whatever. But that’s just me. I had a 63 vette some years ago with an original 327 in it that started burning oil like it was trying to lay a smokescreen from the enemy in WWII I decided to pull the engine but instead of rebuilding it and reinstalling it I kept it to the side and dropped in a 350 and put on Chromed Hooker Headers sidepipes with no baffles. I drove the sh__ out of that car and had so much fun with it !!!! I had no hesitation at anytime to lay down long strips of rubber and scare old ladies and children lol I sold it with the original engine on the side. I wish I had it back !!
If you intend to modify either car, the ’67 is the better bet, because the ’67 440 heads have thicker ports, which allow better port flow with a good rout out. The 1970 has thin-wall casting, and doesn’t take serious modification as well… although the iron alloy has a higher nickel content in the later car.
The 1970 is to my eye a spectacularly pretty car. The ’67 is a box. FWIW
Bought a ’67 GTX years ago off the original owner, an accountant, didn’t know what he had, said it pulled his pop-up camper real well….lol….loved the boxy square bodies, bought it for $500 and couldn’t give it away…..finally got an offer of $1000 and let it go….now geez they are expensive….wish I still had it….Love the ’68 thru ’70 bodies though….
I see a little turquoise engine paint under the Hemi Orange on the 440 so I feel a lot better about the number of times the seller wrote “original engine” in the ad for the ’67 (all 440’s were turquoise in ’66). Since ’66 I have had a ’66/67 B-body in my life constantly except for about four years, so I’d have to go with the ’67.
The mid sixties styling was the best.for Chrysler. Like the four speeds in the Chevy’s of that era but loved the torqueflite trans in the Dodgers and Plymouths. The 67 by far would be my choice.
For the 67 that looks to be the rare – MM1 – Turbine Bronze Metalic – like my latest 67.
The code on the 67 block should be – B440 as the first year was 1966. 1968 would be a C code but what the heck – most flippers really don’t get it right.
Here’s my second 67 GTX in the late 80’s after the best New Year’s I ever had…that posi made the difference taking that pretty girl home from the party two cities over where she lived!
Oh…..the current project….
I bought one of these as a used car in June of 68 when I returned to the world. Loved the power, the bad-ass burnouts. I didn’t own it long. Traded in on a new Road Runner in August of 68.