Superbird? 1970 Plymouth Road Runner

And I thought that the Pontiac GTO “The Judge” from back in April was in rough shape. Looking at that car now, it looks like it’s ready for Pebble Beach compared to this 1970 Plymouth Road Runner. This baby is listed on eBay¬†with a current bid of just over $1,500. It’s in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania where you’ll have to contract with several steel mills to make sure that you have enough rolling stock to finish this project.

I keep seeing the General Lee in this car, and it looks like it’s even jumping another car in one of the photos.. or tried to jump one. It appears to be some other unusual paint / graphic scheme that’s ghosted in the paint. Or, what’s left of the paint. Is this, or could this even be a Superbird? Inquiring minds want to know. What are your thoughts just on what you see here so far? The seller says that it was originally an “EV2 Hemi Orange 440-6 Pack car, Super Trac Pac 4.10 Dana”, but they also mention Superbird in the listing. Is that a bait and switch sort of thing to draw viewers? Sort of like if I were to say, “Winning Powerball Numbers Here”? And, just for the record, if I won I’d share it with everyone here..

GAAA! From the last two photos I bet that you thought there was a slight chance of restoring this car. How about now? I don’t feel so bad about a couple of my cars now after seeing this hunk-o-.. somethin’. The first-generation Road Runner is the one to have, there is just no question about that; from 1968 to 1970. 1970 was the last year for the first-gen cars and it was also the year when buyers could check a few boxes and order a Superbird version of the Road Runner. The seller sort of takes a swing and a miss at the VIN because supposedly all of the numbers are missing. That’s never a good sign. Read the question and answer on the bottom of the eBay link for some info on that.

This is the closest thing that I could see as far as an interior photo goes, other than this one showing what I’m assuming is, was, or used to be the floors? In more of a Craigslist tradition of either not providing enough photos or providing horrible photos, this auction has plenty of both, if that makes sense. Not enough photos and what photos are there aren’t the best. But, hey, they already have $1,500 bid on this car and I wouldn’t take it if they gave it to me, shipped it for free, and then gave me $1,500 in cash. Someone sees value in this car and all kidding aside, there have to be quite a few parts and pieces on this rusty shell that make it worth it for the 8 or 9 bidders who have gone after this Road Runner so far.

Like interior photos, there isn’t one photo of the engine area. You didn’t expect to see an engine in here, I hope? There should be a 440 V8 with a 6-pack (three 2-barrel carburetors) under this crushed, rusty hood – one of three engines available for the 1970 Plymouth Superbird. The other two would be the 440 single 4-barrel, and the one that everyone wants and only 135 people ordered: the 426 Hemi. But, is this a Superbird? It must have lost all of its goodies (wing, nose cone, etc) if it is one, but I doubt it. It’s most likely just a good way to get people to view your auction. But, just give me a 1970 Road Runner with a 440 6-pack, I don’t need a Superbird!

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Comments

  1. sir mike

    April Fools day already???

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  2. giorgitd

    The Lincoln Premier Capri is cringing to be listed next to this pile of rusty metal.

  3. Mike Layton

    Even the dealer stripped Birds retained their wing supports and mounts in the trunk . See if they are still present or have been cut away .

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  4. Jamie P

    Mark Worman. Saves it!!!

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  5. Warren

    Junk, but I find some humor in sellers comment “If you have a sick family member that may take a turn for the worse, same thing, refrain from bidding.”

    Sold my 59 Edsel on EBay a few years back. Winning Bidder calls me and states that he could not complete the sale as his Wife “Took a turn for the worst”. Perhaps she did, but the next highest bidder was happy to buy the car!

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  6. Bob Hess

    Too bad the crusher broke so soon….

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  7. CCFisher

    It does appear to have the rear window plug used on the Superbird…. not that it matters at this stage of the car’s life.

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    • JunkFixer

      Hemi brake booster as well.

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  8. rustylink

    Theseus’s paradox, is a thought experiment that raises the question of whether an object that has had all of its components replaced remains fundamentally the same object.

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  9. leiniedude leiniedude Member

    Window plug?

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    • Steve

      The superbird used a fiberglass “plug” to make the rear window flat for better aerodynamics. Take a look at photos of other roadrunners. they don’t have a rear window like this one does.

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      • leiniedude leiniedude Member

        Hi Steve, thanks, I can see it now. A guy I know has owned a wing car for over 30 years. I ran into his BIL last week at the car show. He told me that his BIL is in rough shape and his daughter has no interest in the car at all. He also told me the owner is a hoarder and it is very hard to even see it in his garage. Thanks again Mike.

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      • Brian Crowe

        If the plug was fiberglass then why is this one rusted right threw?

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    • ThomasL

      Roadrunners had a concave rear window. In order to make the car more aerodynamic, a window plug was installed to allow a flush rear window. Plymouth did not take much care in smoothing out the bodywork around the plug, which is why all street Superbirds were sold with vinyl tops. Those tops covered the rough welds.

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  10. Jeffro

    Only way this will ever be a driveable car again, is to melt it down and use the metal in another car.

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    • Fred W.

      Not enough metal left for that to happen.

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      • bruce baker

        Ha, ha, you’re right. But maybe there’s just enough metal for a smart car.

  11. Rhett

    It’s a ‘bird, and those windshield moldings alone are likely worth half the asking price anyway

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  12. 68 custom

    looks like an expensive lawn ornament at this point, to bad the window plug makes me think it may have been the real thing. did mopar make a Plymouth equivalent of the charger 500?

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    • Johnny the mailman B

      Plymouth allegedly took Superbirds that didn’t sell and turned them back into Roadrunners by removing the wing and nose cone/front clip…I have never seen one in person or in any book though…

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  13. 3457fl Member

    Bet all the Vin numbers were applied to another one years ago.

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    • John T

      The only way this could be worth anything near $1500 is if it still has all the VIN number plates on it to be applied to another Mopar.

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    • The Walrus

      My thoughts exactly. Without them this car has no value to restore.

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      • Ronnie Gentry

        This car want even make it on a donors list nothing there

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  14. Cary Robinson

    it appears to have the correct Superbird parts, it has the rear window plug (which reduces the size of the back window and is only on the Superbird) it also has the wide A pillar trim which is super bird only and the front fender thats still on it appears to be a correct Superbird fender

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    • 68 custom

      plus Daytona and Charger 500 in reference to rear window plug.

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  15. jdjonesdr

    No mention of whether the engine turns over. Don’t see an A/C compressor either or a power steering pump.

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  16. Steve

    Looks like a superbird to me. Good project for Graveyard Carz. He rebuilt a 440 +6 cuda that was wadded up as bad or worse than this one, just to prove it could be done.The superbird used a fiberglass “plug” to make the rear window flat for better aerodynamics. Take a look at photos of other roadrunners. they don’t have a rear window like this one does.Also, regular roadrunners didn’t have the stainless deflectros on the a pillars like this one does.

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  17. glen

    He says no numbers or title available, but a vin is provided in the listing, huh? What is salvageable from this? Looking at the first photo, the car looks bent, this is a mess.

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    • CATHOUSE

      If you read the questions asked section on the ebay listing the seller says he lifted a VIN from another auction. Not something that I would have done, but I am not the seller. My question is how does the seller know how the car was equipped if all the numbers and tags are gone? It would make a pretty neat piece of yard art if you have a Mopar restoration shop.

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      • glen

        Thanks Cathouse, I usually read them. So where is the proof that this is what he claims, sounds like he’s making the whole thing up.

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  18. Blaine

    Serial number is stamped in rear trunk gutter on drivers side.. ya have to roll the trunk seal rubber up to see it

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    • Steve

      Would be cool to find that serial number, and see where “that” car is now.

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      • Dave Wright

        Multiple cars being registered with the same serial number is not uncommon. There are 3 Mercedes 1958 220s cars registered here in Idaho with the same vin as mine……the dummy’s used the model number as a vin when they were first registered. Obviously, there are no checks to prevent it. A Lein sale on the vin……you will have a good title and off you go.

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  19. Howard A

    7,800 original miles,,,hey, why not?? Only shows how desperate the hobby is, that someone is actually going to buy this. Maybe they need the “Plymouth” letters on the back. Unbelievable.

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    • Superdessucke

      5 or 6 digit odometer? Somebody check the pedals for wear.

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  20. Paul

    lol!!!

  21. 86 Vette Convertible

    Save the passenger window glass and replace everything else (assuming that’s someone’s intentions). Unless there’s some rare part that’s unseen, don’t see anything else salvageable here.

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    • bruce baker

      I was thinking that right door plus glass might be worth a $150oo.

  22. Ralph

    Superrusty….Superbent…..Supershady……Superscrap…..Superpass…..

    Really, if this was 10-15 years ago, he would probably get $10K for it back when every dummy with money was “”Moparcrazy” and people were getting $300k for Hemi clones, but the bloom has long since been off that rose……

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  23. Dave Mikulec

    This nonsense is getting out of hand.

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  24. sparkster

    Was this in the same lake as the 1925 Bugatti ?

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  25. VR LIVES

    After seeing that Titanic wannabe, I think I need a tetanus shot.

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  26. Chebby

    It’s been junk for years, the real qestion is how has it hung around this long?

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  27. James

    I agree. Real bird with some real Superbird parts remaining. Shame.

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  28. elmer

    you can buy it and put the vin’s on another car, oh wait somebody already did……….there goes my 100k idea

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  29. Robert peterson

    That’s the most expensive passenger side window I ever saw it’s up to 2551 on e bay and they want $5000

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  30. XMA0891

    I’ve looked at A LOT of Mopar “For Sale” ads in my day, and, that I can recall, have only seen one in worse shape.
    What ever it is, I know if this were mine, I’d have to pay someone big bucks – To haul it away.

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  31. Del

    Looks like a graveyards cars special. Anything can be rebuilt with enought cash thrown at it

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  32. Harvey Peever

    The only thing I can think of is the seller attempting not to laugh his butt off as the buyer hands over the money and he hands over the …..

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  33. Steve

    Is this one of those ads for “Your brain on crack”?

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  34. Norm

    You don’t see them in this condition come along often . I wouldn’t restore this . I would drive this as is and preserve it . They are only original once !

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    • bruce baker

      Yeah a 3 wheel Mopar.

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  35. GP Member

    Over 3000.00. So in the seventy’s, You could buy these cars and cars like them, Put them in a field and salt them on a regular base’s and still get your money back. No gain but no pain.

    • Dave Wright

      Just shows how different the money is.

  36. PAPERBKWRITER

    Too many restoration programs on TV. People think junk iron is gold…If it is, it’s fools gold.

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  37. billy

    And to think, I PAID to have my 70 hauled away and crushed because it had 130K miles on it and a bad tranny! Only had rust at the bottom of the rear quarters, an acceptable paint job, and a near mint interior, plus mine even came with an engine under the hood! Oh but how times have changed from 1980!

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  38. Keith

    If this car was a Porsche it would be worth 30k!………..LOL!

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  39. DavidL

    C’mon guys. Let’s not be so negative. Are we a flask half full or a flask half empty bunch of guys. I see potential here. I think it cries out for Rat Rod treatment! A couple cans of clear coat to preserve the ‘patina’, a few lengths of chain to hold the loose parts down and some sort of rigged up spoiler. I’m sure one of us has an extra engine behind the garage that we could put in it … Wait a minute. Let me look at the pictures again. Forget it. Crush that pile of rust.

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  40. Rolf Poncho 455

    I agree to all the negativity on this mopar
    no vin no cash it’s scrap metal

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  41. Pa Tina

    Direct correlation between the size of the scrap pile and the number of comments. See? I just proved my point. We are one step away from postings of the crushed cubes at the recycle yards

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  42. The Real Diesel Dick

    Super Bird? More like Super Bent?

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  43. Car Guy

    “I’ll buy that for a dollar.” I could make a profit at the metal recycling…….maybe

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  44. Dt 1

    You would have to pay me to take that car

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  45. leiniedude leiniedude Member

    Winning bid:US $3,551.00
    [ 27 bids ] WOW!

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    • Robert peterson

      I agree

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  46. bob

    pure junk.
    this tells you that the end of “barn finds” is near. nobody in their right mind would buy the car.

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  47. Chuck

    Wicked pissa yard art, I have to have this!!!!!!

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  48. Rick

    There’s five different places a VIN appears on this car! This isn’t the Kennedy assasination! Ask the seller to confirm matching locations or walk away!

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