Structural Integrity: 1970 MG MGB GT

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If I ever become insane enough to go back to school for a doctorate, I think I will study metallurgy.  My doctorate would be built around research into the steels and processes used back in the day to build some of the cars we see on Barn Finds.  Specifically, Chrysler products from 1957-1974, GM cars from 1976, and, of course, MGBs like this 1970 MGB GT being sold here on craigslist for $1,950 or best offer.  While it doesn’t look too bad from the pictures, closer analysis reveals just how badly rust has damaged this neat old British sportscar.  With thanks going to faithful reader Gunter K., we can take a look at how the design of the MGB contributed to its rust issues and have put it in danger of becoming a parts car.

The first thing we have to remember is that all cars are designed for a certain service life.  That service life is usually about as long as it takes to pay off the note.  If it falls apart beforehand, the customer swears off that make for life.  If it lasts forever, the company never gets to sell you a new car unless they lure you in with styling and/or more power.  MG wanted to sell cars and make much needed money.  They weren’t thinking about what these cars would be like years down the road.

When MG made the leap from the rather dated methods of making MGAs they went all-in on a monocoque body shell.  They are also called unibodies.  Unibodies are designed with the idea that the body is the main stressed member of the car, a job usually left for the frame.  This type of construction is usually stronger as a whole, cheaper to make, and can be done with fewer resources.  For a car company trying to squeeze out every cent of profit, this can be a big draw.  Modern safety standards have also pushed automakers further and further in this direction.

The problem, as seen in the photo above, is that you have to do a really good job of getting a rust protective coating in all of the nooks and crannies of that body.  That coating also has to be pretty durable as well.  When rust sets in it weakens the structure to the point that doors no longer open and shut effortlessly and/or the car eventually becomes unsafe to drive.  Of course, all of this can be fixed with time, money, and talent.  Restorers will rebuild a valuable and/or rare car, but a common car usually heads to the great junkyard in the sky.

Considering that 523,836 MGBs were built during the long initial production run, the chances that this MGB GT will get the corrosion repair it needs are slim.  That is a shame because this car has a lot going for it.  First off, MGBs have a tremendous amount of aftermarket support in the way of parts and accessories.  They are relatively easy to work on and have the support of a number of clubs dedicated to them.  They are in the same league as Model A Fords, first-generation Mustangs, and Corvettes in that regard.

If you look past the corrosion issues, this is a fairly complete car.  The upholstery looks as if it could be re-dyed and used again.  The engine and transmission are still in the car, and the seller tells us that it fires up if you spritz gas into the carburetors and the transmission still shifts.  It doesn’t appear to have an overdrive unit though.  The big problem stated in the ad is that the brake and clutch hydraulics leaked on the car allowing corrosion to damage the right frame rail.  You can also see some corrosion in the rear part of the left front fender and in the passenger rear wheel well.

A look under the hood shows the original four-cylinder engine that had been in production since 1947.  These durable engines don’t produce pavement melting gobs of horsepower, but they are reliable and can be hopped up a bit.  The last time I checked, Moss Motors offered a supercharger that you could bolt-on.  This one is pretty far from that.  The lack of air cleaners and the fact that the original carburetors are still on the car lends us to think that fuel system issues may have been what got this car parked so long ago.

This is a car that I wish could be saved.  MG went to Pininfarina for help in designing a hardtop version of the MGB and it was money well spent.  They are neat cars, but the fact that it is not a convertible hurts its chances of being restored.  Everyone wants a drop-top.  The other drawback is that you can find solid cars for far less money than it would take to bring this one up to a comparable condition.  If the seller lowers his price, maybe someone will see this as a labor of love instead of a parts car.

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Comments

  1. bobhess bobhessMember

    Only good things about this car are the parts and the price. Dig up a good chassis to put the parts into and you’ve got one of UK’s best exports.

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  2. 19sixty5Member

    1970 was the only year of the split rear bumper, with the license plate lowered into the bumper rather than above. They looked so much sleeker from the rear. I had a 70 B with the stow-away top, again, much sleeker appearance but a major PITA to take the top off or replace. My B was actually more reliable than people generally give them credit for.

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    • Arfeeto

      Agreed. I owned five Bs over 35 years and found them at least as reliable as of the domestic cars I’ve also owned.

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  3. PairsNPaint PairsNPaintMember

    Not everyone wants a drop top. I would much rather have the much prettier MGB-GT than the roadster.

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  4. TOMGBGT

    Dear Jeff,

    You’d be surprised how many people would undertake the really minimal rust repair of that forward piece of rail. All of those parts, including floor pans, can be had and at reasonable prices. There is very little “unobtainium” in the MGB world.

    As someone who has both a roadster and an MGB-GT, it is a very different driving experience. The roadster feels like it could run wild, while the GT is more refined. Considering the GT production numbers for the US market are a fraction of total production this is a good find considering the seeming originality.

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    • Michelle RandStaff

      Agree. This rust isn’t horrible; I’ve seen worse.

      Also, I am an aficionado of the B-series engine – it’s a little unfair to say that the MGB motor dates to 1947. The MGB version was quite a few iterations beyond the 1947 Austin motor.

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  5. Uncle Pauls Garage

    Honestly not the worst MGB condition I have restored. Every MGB I see, I assume frame rails, floor, rockers and some fender rust repair will be necessary. Honestly it is cheaper to do the rust repair than to do the interior. A MGB-GT is worth resurrecting with some basic welding skills and a place to do it. Notice I said resurrect these are never worth a “restoration” as they are great cars to enjoy.

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  6. Mike Hawke

    Gonna be tough to sell in Indiana/KY without a title…unless it’s going straight to parts

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  7. Jim Muise

    Owned two 1971 MGB convetiblesand I drove them for 12 months of the year in Canadian winters. Worst than terrible in any snow! Both cars were very dependable and a real hoot to drive. Rust was a major issue with number two!

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  8. Frank of Eden

    What year did those big Rubber bumpers get put on the MGB? I thought it was before ’70. I would have thought that this car had them. They made the cars look a rather ugly but the gov. safety folks demanded it. I know a lot of owners changed them out later… back to the chrome bumpers (after they were a few years old).

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    • 19sixty5Member

      1974 was the first year of the huge rubber bumpers, along with an increased ride height of about an inch. I think the 73’s had the rubber blocks mounted over the OEM bumper guards which were usually removed after you got your car home!

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  9. Jeff

    I bought it. It does need extensive rust repair…so is going to be a long term labor of love project. I’m planning a Camaro V6 and 5 speed swap for it. I’ve always loved these cars….I want to keep it original looking, but to have more performance.I’m gonna keep the white color, and hopefully change the interior color to red.

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