Looking heavy-duty for a pickup known as a company’s “Light Line” model, this 1972 International 1110 4×4 pickup is one rugged truck. The seller has it listed here on Facebook Marketplace in impossibly beautiful Newport Beach, California where I should have moved after high school. They’re asking $16,995, here is the original listing, and thanks to T.J. for the tip!
That this truck looks rugged and is rugged isn’t surprising, coming from a company known for making heavy-duty farming equipment for seven decades up to the point when this truck rolled off the assembly line. For the record, I know that what eventually became I-H started in the early 1800s, but International Harvester was “founded” in 1902. The body on this truck looks pretty nice overall, but it’s nice enough that it’s worth making really nice, in my opinion.
The seller doesn’t mention whether there’s any major rust or bodywork on this 1110 but it looks solid, even underneath. We also don’t know any history of this International, where it spent most of its life, how many owners, and things like that. Those things don’t really matter in the grand scheme of vehicle ownership if it’s a solid example that works well. We don’t see inside the box but hopefully it looks as good as the body does.
The interior looks like it would clean up well, what isn’t already clean, that is. The cover on the back of the seat is perfect for Newport Beach but I’d want to change both seat covers into something more OEM-looking. This truck has a four-speed manual for extra points at any car show, and there’s a new exhaust as seen in the underside photo.
The engine is a mystery, at least to me. It’s a V8, but what’s the displacement? 304, 345, or 392, or something else? Geo or Howard or one of you International experts can hopefully tell by looking at it. I don’t believe that AMC V8s were used until 1973 but I could be way off. It’s said to start and drive well and the asking price is just a bit over Hagerty’s #3 good-condition value. Any thoughts on this I-H 4×4?
I like these Internationals. There was no doubt what they were meant to do (e.g. work hard), and what they did not excel at (e.g. take you and the wife out to eat at a nice restaurant on Saturday night). This looks like a good example. I’m with Scotty, I think it would look great with a new coat of paint.
This is a good example of “back when trucks were trucks.” We like to throw stones at modern pickups, the high-end models specifically, for their abundance of luxury and convenience features. But what about someone who grew up in the era of the 1927 pickup featured nearby, what would they have thought about this International. “Who needs all this newfangled stuff, like power steering and synchronized gears and roll-down windows.”
Remember, first is only a Granny gear & it’s not synchronized. Best part is you can remove the rubber floor plugs & hose out the interior. No sound deadening anywhere to get wet.
You talkin’ to me? In the same sentence as Geomechs? Too kind, but he’s forgotten more than I know. I will say this, as an IH fan, it’s always fun to see this stuff, but the reality is, they really weren’t that nice. By ’72, the others had evolved into more user friendly trucks, IH was way behind and they knew it. IH used the AMC 401 in ’73 and ’74 due to a shortage of IH 392s. Think every school bus in the nation had one. The way to tell, is the thermostat housing, I read. These rode rough, sucked fuel, wandered like a geezer at a flea market, iffy brakes, poor heat, all the things that made it an IH truck. Too bad the public didn’t want any of that, and the decision to pull the plug in ’75( for pickups, Scout 1980), to concentrate on the HD truck market, going great guns at the time. This is a ,,,find,,unless you are a trucker, ex or current,,I all but guarantee, you won’t like it.
LMAO! “Wandered like a geezer at a flea market” I hope I can get the coffee stains outta my work shirt! Still laughing. Thanks Howard for making my day with that one.
Very true about the ride quality in an IH. My dad owns a Scout II XLC that be bought new in 76 and despite not knowing what a stagecoach feels like, I’d assume riding in a Scout feels similar. The truck does have a lot of charm and it’s been a very reliable vehicle, still with original drivetrain and an engine that’s never been rebuilt, but anyone looking for a refined ride will be sorely disappointed.
I always like to see these, and to see them with an increasing popularity is great. Parts are not bad to come by. Some replacement sheet metal such as the hood hinge mounts, rockers and floors has become available. Sending parts around the world, even to Shri-Lanka.
To identify the engine, there is a machined pad on the RH side of the block, at the front. The engine model should be stamped in there, with the serial number underneath. A general rule of thumb is that 392 engines had 4bbl carburetors although there were some 345 engines that eventually came out in Scouts that were so-equipped. The tag on the back fo the LH door will also tell you some information although the engine is usually shown as hp/rpm. Of course you can always go for a Linesetting ticket.
The Lineset is the truck’s DNA. It will tell you everything but the names of the assembly line workers (The IRS could probably tell you that). As a Navistar dealer we have been able to get lineset information through Navistar (lineset summaries for 1974 to 1983 are also on microfiche–remember them?). Lately it’s been hit-and-miss as they are overhauling their archives. Sometimes you can luck out and download a lineset ticket from Navistar. They keep promising that it is almost ready to go and that you should be able to download at will.
In the meantime, Lineset tickets are available through the Wisconsin Historical Society.
If you happen to have a Canadian made truck you may be in for a challenge. Punch in the VIN and it might get you what you need but otherwise you’re going to be using a lot of backdoors. When the mid-80s shakedown of International Harvester took place, a warehouse on the campus of the University of Guelph was rented and all the CDN archives were sent there. Since then no one has had access so that information is about as easy to come by as the winning Powerball ticket.
And another day begins…
Yep, lineset tickets are like a secret decoder ring. This is how I know my Scout’s engine, frame and axles are from a red 1979 Scout delivered to a dealer in Minnesota, the body is from a 1975 Scout based on a one-year-only color, and the VIN is from a 1976 Solar Yellow Scout delivered to a dealer in Colorado. For a Scout, this Frankenstein situation is pretty common (when people ask me what year it is, my standard reply is, “depends on what you’re looking at.”)
There were more than a few V8 Scouts built with 4-barrel carbs; mine came from the factory with a Thermoquad, which was pretty standard for smog-rules states.
As a young sprout of almost 70, I just got an education from Howard & Geo. A few years ago at a car show I saw one of these. I think it was a ’75. Had a cloth seat, I believe it had an automatic, and the rare options of factory air and AM-FM. It was getting a lot of looks and conversation. My neighbor in my hometown bought a new ’68. At the Union 76 service station I worked at I learned to not pump the gas too fast otherwise you’re going to get a bath from the back pressure. Fun read, and with some work & $$$$ you can have a nice ride.
I had a 71 D1110 in Australia which were very different and a 4wd was unavailable, by this time Landcruisers were dominant in the market even government department were only buying larger Inter’s with 4.5 ton capacity but with a similar power unit
Bother to post photos & a price, but no important (engine size) details? I don’t have time to figure out the potential scam.
I am saying 392 by looks of thermostat housing. The engine size is stamped on the block. But I can’t remember the location at the present.
All IH engines in 72.
Well it’s salvageable to say the least. Nothing like an old pickup when trucks were trucks. Would be interested but alittle high on price for a complete restoration but I’m sure it would look great all fixed up!
A 392 has a 3 bolt flange at the head pipe, a 304 or 345 has a 2 bolt flange there. I would be very surprised if a unit like this had a 304 under the hood.
Listing update: the seller lowered the asking price to $14,995.