Do you remember seeing cartoon characters that have eyeballs that are on springs? You know, when the character spies something that really catches his attention, his eyeballs extend out and the slap back? Well, that’s what happened to me when I stumbled upon this 1967 Oldsmobile 442 convertible listing. It is in magnificent condition which is cause enough, but it’s the price. It’s located in San Diego, California and is available, here on craigslist for $12,900. Yes, $12,900! Thanks to Matt R for this tip!
The listing is still up so I have to believe the car is still available but it’s hard to imagine why. The description is light but the images do the talking, that’s for sure! Besides its stunning exterior condition, the goodness continues through the interior and across the underside. The 442 donned three different body styles in ’67, a two-door “Holiday” coupe (hardtop), a two-door sports coupe (pillared two-door sedan), and a convertible such as our subject car. Total sales volume reached about 24K units.
OK, we can debate all day long about the definition of 442 but in this case, it’s more like a 432 as this Olds is equipped with a three-speed automatic transmission. Nevertheless, it’s a Turbo-Hydramatic 400, three-speed, the first year that the GM divisions employed this fabulous transmission in their A-Body intermediates. Good thing too as in ’66 the automatic in use was a two-speed Super-Turbine 300 automatic rendering the performance Olds as a 422! The “Big-Mo” is the 350 gross HP, 400 CI V8 ensconced under the hood and providing the necessary stump pullin’. The seller makes no mention as to how this Olds operates but the mileage claim is 78K miles and the underhood images present an engine room that is as clean as a whistle.
The interior has the appearance of one that is either brand new or has just been completely redone. There is not an item out of place! It is a typical GM ’60s shade of blue, a shade we haven’t seen in a new car for many moons. Not only is this Olds equipped with power windows, but it also has A/C too, something frequently not found in convertibles of this era. The seller states that the rear courtesy light lenses are cracked but replacements are included in the sale. Yes, an original radio is in place.
The exterior is pristine! Forget about body damage, rust, fade, whatever, we have a perfect “Provincial White” finish complemented by a white folding top and highlighted with red stripe tires mounted on Magnum 500 style wheels. The chrome, stainless steel trim, badging, it’s all without fault. Talk about a time capsule!
Someone, quick, buy this car. Unless I have lost my mind and am really missing something, this seems like the buy of the decade, wouldn’t you agree?
WOW! If everything checks out this is a great buy especially for $12.9k. So much better to buy something this nice instead of a junk “project car” that will require tons of time, effort and cash to be nearly this nice.
YES ! Someone is going to get a great car, if they can get there first.
How is this still for sale?
Something smells here, price is too low. Any person would have to know this car is worth more. They didn’t know the 400 was out in 1965. Just send your money to….. Yeah I am sceptical on this one.
Agree, seems fishy. A “dealer” with no phone number and only way to inquire means giving out your email address? Actually, seems…”fishing”.
Where are you getting a dealer vibe from? The description? The email reply is the standard Craigslist setup.
Matt R: Getting the “dealer vibe” from the Craigslist heading. The one that says “cars and trucks-by dealer”.
A scam if ever there was one. Car in the picture is worth 35 to 45 thousand.
“Forget about it Jake. It’s Craiglist”
FRAUD! Taken from BringATrailer listing back in 2016.
When things seem too good to be true they usually are… great Olds though
Exactly. This is another example of why it’s a good idea to Google search a VIN number when it’s listed in an ad. Smart buyers have known to do this for years.
Steve R
Go to the Craigslist ad and flag it so nobody gets taken in.
CL doesn’t seem to give a hoot that it is a fraudulent ad.
It’s still there 6 days later.
sYc – got a link to the BAT ad?
Google the VIN, it’s in the Craigslist ad, there are several listings for this car from around that time.
Steve R
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-oldsmobile-cutlass-supreme-4-4-2-convertible/
It reached almost $26K and reserve not met so I doubt owner would drop it off at 13K now five years later
A steal, espec if the a/c & p/w work properly.
Is the black dash the correct color? I would think it should be medium blue, tho it does match the aftmkt steering wheel.
Odd air cleaner – for a GM car. I thought there might be a snorkle or opening on the driver’s side, but apparently not …
http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop_webp/201811/1967-oldsmobile-442–9_800x0.webp
Must be getting air from underneath the air cleaner, like on some old Chryslers, which is the hottest & makes no sense.
Looks better than new! Low price because body panels are hard to come by in case of an accident?
Jim, this is such a blatant example of fraud you should have called it out for what it is, or not presented it at all.
Come on, man.
I have absolutely no proof that it is fraudulent. If something seems too good to be true, it probably is and that’s a lesson that everyone should follow.
JO
Agreed 100%.
I suggest that readers may have been best served by you stating exactly that in the presentation.
Jcs:
I have to maintain objectivity, I can’t slant what I write based on a perception or an assumption; readers have to make that determination on their own. Frequently images are the only “facts” that we can glean. BF readers are a pretty sharp group and they can figure these things out. Now that I have actually run this one down, it does seem pretty fishy – but that had to happen to know with any better certainty. That said, no one should take my word on the value or the goodness of a car deal. I just report the news, I don’t make it up. It’s up to each individual to do their own homework.
As the BF disclaimer on our masthead reads, “The information presented here on Barn Finds should not be considered legal advice. Please do your due diligence before giving money to anyone. We can not be held liable for fraudulent sellers or buyer’s remorse“.
Thx,
JO
jim, seriously why doesnt ” bring a trailer ” go after them !!?
Rob:
I can’t answer for B-A-T, I don’t know their policies or what criteria that they use to determine that something is factually fraudulent. BF handles car sales, and to a lesser degree auctions, but our BF senior editors do the vetting though I’m not sure what measures they apply.
It can be a slippery slope for any medium, you have to be absolutely sure that there is a factually fraudulent problem before you “cancel” someone out or you end up putting yourself in jeopardy. And on-line scams are everywhere, it’s impossible to police them all.
It has been said here several times already if something seems too good to be true, it probably is. And, you can always make an initial inquiry and see where it goes, you’ll know soon enough if it’s on the up and up.
JO
Quite a drop in price from 2016 to 2021. It went from $25,700 to $12,900 now. The pictures above seem to be the same from the 2016 ad. Also the odometer does not seem to have advanced at all from 2016. Hmmm!
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-oldsmobile-cutlass-supreme-4-4-2-convertible/
At this price there is no way this is not fraud. Nobody is stupid enough to sell this car at this price.
However, there are more than a few people stupid enough to wire the seller money for a deposit or try to purchase the car.
Steve R
OK guys and gals, I contacted the owner and she responded.
She states: “This is XXXX selling the ’67 Oldsmobile Cutlass 442. The car is in really good condition it has no issues or accidents no rust or leaks straight body no work needed ready to enjoy. Service records, it’s sold with a clean California title. Chassis no. 338677M415737. 78,275 miles
It was my husband’s but he passed away last year he served his country well and I’m sure he’s in a good place now. I had thyroid surgery and moved back to my late folks’ house in Nebraska to recover and considering the difficult circumstances, I’m forced to sell it. I made arrangements with a local shipper to help me with the sale as I’m unable to and the car is prepped & ready for delivery which is covered in the $12,900″.
“If still interested in buying and need more details provide your name and a shipping address I’ll forward it to them and they’ll provide you the terms and legal contract to show authenticity & delivery are guaranteed. I have several folks interested so I’ll be waiting for your reply soon hopefully“.
So, what do you think? I don’t know if the car is in Nebraska or SoCal. Is this a sign-up and watch your money disappear or do you think there is legitimacy here? It would seem if there were “several folks” interested, it would be gone by now.
JO
Oh my. That sounds like almost the same scam reply posted last week or so with a different car. Steve may remember which one that was.
I am definitely in the scam camp now. Sorry for the dust up here Jim.
MattR, I remember that, I think it was some sort of Mopar. They too had a similar story. It’s too bad, there will likely be more than one person that sends them money, at least for a deposit, possibly for the entire amount. Potential buyers often only see a bargain price, nothing more. They often feel they have to act quickly, that’s where the problem arises, if the seller is legitimate, the first person there will probably buy the car.
Steve R
I had the same vibe with another car last year. They told me that they were selling it for fellow service member stationed in the mid west (the car was on base and unavailable for the public to see it). When I lied and said that I also had a friend stationed there, they went dark.
Clear scam. Last summer, I saw a great Jaguar 420G for sale. The “owner” wrote me how to buy the car without seeing each other… a general Wilson, currently served in Afghanistan :) Made me laugh…but obviously, some people are very naive. Everyone can check FBI sites, where you can find information about such scams… I reported the advertisement and sadly it took another rmonth or so than it was deleted….
That’s almost identical to the scam someone tried to run on me; except the car was a ’71 Mercedes 280SE 3.5 coupe. Same price too, $12,900.
“It was my husband’s but he passed away last year he served his country well and I’m sure he’s in a good place now.”
Appeal to patriotism and sympathy for her loss, to gain your trust and sympathy.
“I made arrangements with a local shipper to help me with the sale as I’m unable to and the car is prepped & ready for delivery which is covered in the $12,900″.
In other words, “just send me the money and I’ll have the car shipped to you. It’s ready to go. Just wire me the money”.
You said, “I don’t know if the car is in Nebraska or SoCal.” Right. Wherever it is, if you offer to take a cheap flight to look at it in person, she’ll have a whole raft of excuses as to why you can’t do that.
This is a more sophisticated con than the usual Craigslist scam. “She” will respond to your emails to gain your trust and eventually get you to send money.
Happened to me too with a ’71 El Camino. As soon as the “seller” realized that I lived not far from where the car was located and would want to actually look at it, as well as have him answer some very specific questions first, he went radio silent.
JO
Hey Jim! The response from the “owner” is a typical phony story from a grieving widow who is “forced to sell” this car. The ad was lifted from another ad from who knows where or when. The scammer is fishing for money from a car shopper who is dumb enough to send a “deposit”. C’mom man!
Yes, it sounds suspicious.
JO
It’s an old scam, been around for years, usually the buyer is out at sea with no way to do banking, so a third party (partner in crime ) will arrange to take your $$$ and laugh all the way to the bank,,,, Don’t fall for it. By the way, it is a beautiful car, love that front end!
Complete scam. These were rampant in the state of Missouri when I ran into this scenario on a Cobalt boat “ listed” a year or 2 ago on Craigslist as well. Photos are always lifted from a previous ad.
Most State Attorney General Offices are aware of this scam.
It always takes about 12 hours for the “owner” to text you back, probably because they are halfway around the world, and there is always a death / medical condition, along with a third party involved in the story.
Most importantly, it’s always a great looking vehicle or boat at an unbelievably ridiculous price.
Caveat Emptor!!!!! If it looks too good to be true, then it most likely isn’t.
I really think Barn Finds might want to modify the header on this one to include that this is an example of a modern scam technique, or maybe take it down completely?
This lady called me yesterday and said my Social Security payments had been suspended. Luckily, she will fix it for me. She was so nice! Craigslist ad has been flagged. Who would do that?
It sounds too good to be true, but if it’s what he’s saying, GRAB IT!!!!!
I did however hear the boi-oi-oing sound your eyeballs made when you first saw it though.
Ben WTH ? whose etc ?
I enjoyed the pics of this car, good for a morning drool and no more !
Question 1. Is it real? Question 2. What’s wrong with it? Question 3. Is the title good? If all is as it should be, this is one of the Best Buy’s I have seen lately. Wish I had room for it.
Email her and tell her that you want to see it in person. You probably won’t hear back from her.
Same seller as a couple of weeks ago selling a 68 Barracuda [for same price]!
I pursued as I’m from midwest and told her I could stop by and test drive.
Total scam, her hubby had also died , she had thyroid surgery and is having a shipping company handle all details. BARF!
69W31, my thoughts exactly. If I had the money for the car, I would spend the extra to go see it and get it. All of you have “convinced” me it’s a scam, but there is always the outside chance it’s someone that just wants to let someone have a nice car at a fair price without a lot of haggling. What I’m saying is that, before calling fraud, make a personal visit or have someone make it for you.
4 – 400 CI
4- 4 barrel
2- dual exhaust
forgettaboutit!!!!!!!
I agree with you one hundred percent! Go down to see the Olds and if you really like it, GO FOR IT!!!!!
Somehow it has 43 less miles on it also!!! Hmmmm
One can glean source details from either the pics or the ad itself, that now it is located at 32.7607,-117.0721. This is in San Diego,CA. Not sure if old or new info.
I replied that I want to go look at it as I live in San Diego (I don’t) and no response.
She took about 12 hours to get back to me, but you probably won’t hear back as requesting to see the car calls the “seller’s” bluff. Please let us know if you get a response.
Thx,
JO
doesn’t it seem like BAT should monitor this site for sure !
and Craig’s list etc …
forget the red, too late in the run. In fact didn’t a special model (the Hurst?) come this color w/some gold (not quite racing stripes) acc the hood, near head lghts but left to right’n @ same over tail lghts? One of those T handeled hurst shifters?
o0OP, now I read all the comments. Usually don;t comment more’n once.
I got the same scam (dead hubby, yedah, yedah). “I will not B handling sale e-Bay motors will now.” Contacted e-Bay (did not use her link). “Yes, we deliver vehicle (Vixen motorhome) 2U. 5 days to decide on purchase. U buy cards in 500$ lots. Scratch off 2C the number on back, read it to us over the phone…” etc, etc. “No, not I said.” Same lead-in initial extremely low price. I had my healthy skepticism on just for the price, but eyes not fully open till the gift crds or what ever they were and scratch off the back, read us the number certainly scorched my lids off, fully open now even 5 days later
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So here, even the site is involved.
I lost 500$ to flee-bay (must press ‘deposit’ button when wina sale. Pay remainder w/in 5 days to get purchase). Seller went off site for sale as soon as closed “I can’t wait for 21 days to get my money.” Hassled w/o return from flee-bay.
I had a nice 67 Cutlass Supreme Convert for many years. It was also white with a white top and black bench seat with column shift and air conditioning. It ran ww tires and the spoked wheelcovers. It was my wife’s car and she really looked good driving it. It was a truly great car for us.
These present very well in Provincial white. This one is pretty sweet but I’ve never seen that color interior on a 442. It looks odd to me.The air cleaner should have a single snorkel, maybe this one was turned away from the camera, IDK. BTW these wheels are Oldsmobile Super Stock Type 1. They look similar to Magnum 500s but have a 4 3/4″ bolt pattern.among other differences.
Sadly this seems to be a hinky/scammy listing. The price is a red flag for sure. The B.a.T. advert and other folks experience with the buyers conditions for sale pretty much cinches it. If you want to be sure arrange to see the car in person and see how that goes. Good luck. Meanwhile the Craigslist ad is still running.
I had a similar experience with this type of scam, i played along with the person for weeks and then they said ebay would handle the transaction. So, I would be paying ebay so if we didn`t like it we would get our money back from ebay. They sent me a nice ebay page with payment page. Of course nothing on the page worked ( but payment page)and ebay said they do not do what the scammer was trying. Nice forgery though.
It’s still listed on Craigslist, San Diego ad of 3-28-21
Had a similar experience with a fake ad on CL for a really nice tractor that I could use. Slight variation in story, divorce acquisition by ex-wife Ebay handling deal etc. When I responded that I wanted in-person inspection and deal, responses ended.
@Jim Odonnell-had a similar situation regarding a shipping company. Seller’s listing in OR. Claimed his father passed and was selling his pristine ’71 340 Duster four-speed with 60K original miles for 19K (way undervalued), but since he was a project manager for a company (gave name of it) on an offshore oil rig so he was letting a shipping company in the Buffalo, NY area handle the sale. I questioned the listing location OR vs NY and he made some excuse saying he’d listed it on numerous websites. Played along. The first email contained the name of the company he worked for. His second email had a picture of his business card attached and showed the name of a different offshore company. I looked up the name of the first company and it appeared they had filed for bankruptcy. I looked up the second company and they had gone under. Both companies were in TX. I searched the Buffalo New York area and could not locate any shipping companies. I concluded what I suspected all along, that it was a scam.