UPDATE: Pair of 1970 Plymouth Superbirds!

UPDATE – The white Superbird has popped back up here on eBay with a $149k bin!

FROM 9/18/19 – These two 1970 Plymouth Road Runner Superbirds were recently pulled them from their resting spot after 40 years of storage! They are up for bid separately on eBay and have already passed $100,000 combined. Located in Templeton, Massachusetts, the current owner has included over 100 photos of each car documenting their condition and provenance. Check out the amazing story below!

Imagine you’re at a car auction and you happen to have $200,000 burning a hole in your pocket. You see a blue 1970 Plymouth Superbird and are the lucky bidder, spending $187,000 on your new purchase. Your heart is still beating from the excitement of the auction and someone sits down next to you. Here is a small portion of the seller’s story: “Just after I won the blue 1970 Super Bird…a man approached me and sat down next to me and stated he has 2 Super Birds in storage that he has owned for the last 40 years. He told me he purchased them from the original owners…I had the rare opportunity to purchase two more Super Birds that have been hidden from the public eyes for over 35 years. He told me he would like to sell both as a pair…”

The white Superbird can be found for sale here on eBay with a current bid well over $50,000. It is Alpine White and has a little over 40,000 original miles. Both of the cars have 440 cubic inch engines and the original owner stated that the engines have never been out of the cars.

The blue Superbird can be found here on eBay with current bidding over $50,000 as well. It is B5 Blue and has a 440 super commando engine with a 4-barrel carburetor and is said to have 27,000 original miles! There is a ton of information and documentation in the ad. The seller was smart to photograph every step of the process. From pulling the cars out of storage to cleaning them up, etc.

So what do you think of this amazing pair of cars? I’m a little surprised the seller isn’t waiting for a highly publicized auction to offer them for sale. There is a reserve on both cars, so perhaps they will show up on a stage somewhere in the future? What do you think it will take to purchase these cars?


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  1. leiniedude leiniedude Member


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    • walt

      The question was how much $ it would take 2 buy both of these cars? Answer- more than I got 2 spend for sure. Think I will walk around them & dream, just the pictures of them together makes me cum. How can a car nut stuff them in a barn & not drive them 4 years on end. Must b his boys or freind that died or something, or just a car collector saving them 4 a big pay off, looks like hes got it!!! Beautiful !!

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      • Davey

        What is a freind you hillbilly?

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      • Jeff

        Answer…$330k, 180 for the blue one and 150 for the white.

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  2. Madmatt

    This guy had the winning lottery ticket..,for 40 years,
    I say….JACKPOT…$$$$$$…..un-believeable…!!

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    • OnemoreBuck

      What did these cars cost new? Anyone here know how to figure out if that same dollar amount had been invested in a well-managed mutual fund, what would it have done? Perhaps as well, without the storage costs and risks these incurred. Of course, it never would have been as much fun – or is walking around a couple static stored cars that will need complete rebuilds before they can be driven again any fun anyway?? Don’t get me wrong, I like cars, and I like money, but people often don’t really understand the way the two relate.

  3. Chuck J Barsuglia

    A dream scenario – pinch me!
    If possible, he should keep them until a propitious time, then sell the trio. It would be legendary!

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    • walt

      can’t wait 2 long, cars r going electric & gas might b $10-15 ga. in future. Also u really can”t spend the $ if ur 6′ under in a pine box, enjoy ur wise investment while u can & let someone enjoy them 4 awhile

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      • Billy 007

        Here here! I am pleased to hear more and more truth told on this site. Unfortunately the rich boys could care less because the man who buys these doesn’t work by the hour like most of us, and money means nothing to him, and even if the price drops like a rock, he won’t hurt too bad. I do wish that us little guys could own some of this stuff so we could drive and love them, not sit in some cold and lonely, rarely seen, never driven, collection.

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  4. JamestownMike

    And to think dealers couldn’t give them away back in the day!

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    • YooperMike

      JamestownMike . I remember seeing these at the Plymouth dealer in Marquette MI having two of these on the front of the lot. We looked them over and had grins on our faces. I had a 68 Road Runner that I bought new in July of 68.

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    • Billy Mclaurin

      Back in the day. You could buy one for 1500.00 for a really nice one . 500. 00 for one in bad shape .

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  5. Rick

    Pretty cool… but I suspect a fishing expedition to see what the market will bear at this moment in time. Barrett or Mecum would likely bring a higher number.

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    • Steve R

      They will be internet famous by the time the big auctions roll around in January. It’s a compelling story that will likely be picked up by many car enthusiast websites. The current owner should score a nice profit when they sell.

      Steve R

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  6. Steve A

    Pretty wild considering that dealerships had a hard time getting these things off their lots back in 1970

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  7. Mr GoodWrench

    Richard Petty were are you ???

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  8. Boss351

    Just wow!! I assume the reserve is quite high so no harm on trying to see what they bring on eBay. I sure they will be at an auction soon!

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  9. Kellerg

    Ebay ad says both were painted in the 70’s

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  10. Mike R in De

    Great, great find!! Looks like the daily double is now the trifecta of a Mopar collectors dream car garage. I missed on one when the first gas crunch/ embargo hit. 440 six pack , 8-15 mpg didn’t make cents back then when the price jumped 4-6 times and wages didn’t. $2500, 8k miles, 4 speed, and Petty Blue. Could’ a, would’a , should’a!! No $$$ at the time!! Good luck to the owners and seller. Should make somebody Very happy!!

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    • walt

      1st gas crunch in 73 or so under Carter, gas jumped up 2 .40cents $ folks lined up around the block, & u whining about 8-15mpg ? My pumped up 69 Z28 was getting seemed like 5mpg, but they were fast miles. 21 year old kid with heavy foot, tickets-gas were killing me, had 2 sell 2 stay alive, those were the days, wish I kept couple of my old rides, what a Dumb ass I was, o’well I probably would of killed myself

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      • Billy 007

        Ahhh, James Earl Carter was President in Jan 1977, not 1974, that was tricky Dick, at least until August. Sounds like young you should have spent less time behind the wheel and more time behind the books.

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      • TriPowerVette

        @Billy 007 – Is absolutely correct. It was Richard Nixon in office. The gas crisis was precipitated (in part) by Nixon’s instituting of wage and price controls. That and the relatively nascent OPEC, just beginning to flex its muscle, provided a perfect storm for fuel price and availability.

        Not only was I there, but my Sunday school teacher was a self-made multi-millionaire in the oil brokerage business – from which he retired in the 1950’s. He was famous in the industry for inventing a system still in use, today.

        Prior to the introduction of his system, when you bought or sold oil, you were actually dealing in the futures contract for delivery. You bought the specific shipment of oil, it was loaded onto a ship, and spent weeks or months on the high seas, until it reached your port for delivery.

        The problem was, that many times need/demand changed mid-shipment. Sometimes the buyer overestimated demand in his location. Sometimes it was underestimated. Or sometimes the buyer was just anticipating need, but there might be an emergency demand elsewhere.

        The system he developed (as I understood it), was to treat oil as oil, and the container meant nothing. So brokerages began to treat the oil on the high seas as an abstract concept, to be bought, sold, traded and/or re-routed, as desired. It revolutionized what to that time was a very formal, traditional business.

        When I asked him about the ‘oil shortage’, his answer was “What oil shortage?” He was a sharp guy.

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      • triumph1954

        Billy 007- You are correct. I was thinking the same thing!

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      • TriPowerVette

        @triumph1954 – My first car was almost a Triumph Herald convertible. My brother is currently restoring a Triumph TR3A (it will be getting paint in a couple of weeks).

        The first 4-speed manual transmission I ever drove (only the second time I had ever driven a clutch), was a test drive from Morgenson Motors of a Spitfire.

        I stalled it several times, because it just had NO torque (that, and I was a newbie). Newbie or not, it seemed impossible to leave at less than 2000 r.p.m., unless you just had no respect for the clutch.

        I later drove a GT-6. That car was a universe of improvement.

        Overall, the Spit was a fun little car, but it was so powerless, that I just couldn’t warm to it.

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      • Joe Machado

        Walt, I had 7 muscle cars in the 77-78 so called, gas shortage.
        I had an auto repair shop in Norwalk, Calif and next door was an old Gulf gas station that became a Go-Lo gas station.
        I was workin on one of my muscle cars late at nite when a non descript fuel tanker showed up. He unloaded all his fuel in the no longer open for business station.
        I asked if the station was going to reopen and he responded he was told to just dump fuel there because the public was not buying enough fuel.
        I asked if I could fill all my tanks and he said, I saw nothing.

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      • Billy 007

        @Joe, yes, even before Enron, there was nasty corruption, esp in the oil biz. I recall having no problem getting petrol for my RR in 1979, and when the price doubled, well gosh, plenty more available!! As much as I enjoy my cars (and I just had one get out of a 2 1/2 year restoration this week!) I feel it is about time to turn over this nation to a green energy revolution and put Detroit back to work making electric cars. If we had non corrupt politicians who backed this, just think of the climate change benefits and the economic miracles. Of course, rich old cigar smoking oil men would be upset, but who cares about them? They are the past, we need to save the future for our children.

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  11. Dean

    Horry cow!!

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  12. Michael

    Great find for those that appreciate them. Ugliest cars ever made IMO.

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    • JoeNYWF64

      Many took off the nose & replaced it with a std Roadrunner front end.
      & when doin same with Daytona Nose –> std Charger front end, you have 1 of the most beautiful cars ever made!
      So the superbird is the ugliest?
      You must have missed this (or the new Yaris, etc. front ends)
      How do you fix them?

      With a sledgehammer. lol

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    • Chris

      To each his own, but I guess you’ve never crossed paths with a Matador?

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    • 80s Time Traveler

      I certainly can appreciate the rarity , and like early mopar products , but I agree , they’re goofy, ridiculous wings , cheesy aero front end just bolted on to a regular Plymouth(albeit 440 )yes I get it , built so they could race em , so we’re the goofy Monte Carlo aero coupe and even goofier Pontiac 2+2, no one is paying crazy money for them , yet , maybe 20 more years rich guys will think their the holy grail too

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      • Jett

        The Monte Carlo and 2+2 never had Richard petty driving them…

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      • Pontiactivist

        Petty drove a Grand Prix 2+2

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      • TriPowerVette

        I drove a 1965 2+2 421 Tri-Power, Hurst 4-speed for an afternoon in about 1970. In mitigating my opinion of this particular car,it should be said that it was well-used (but still nice enough to be on the used-car front-line of Holiday Oldsmobile in Scottsdale). I don’t remember whether or not it was an HO, but I doubt it. My recall is that it had the 8-lug wheels.

        That written, I was underwhelmed. The car on which it was based (with due respect to @Pontiactivist -) was the Catalina, not the Grand Prix, and was a HUGE car. One of the beefs I have with cars like this (Impala 427/396, Galaxy 427/390, 1970 Chrysler Hurst 300, etc…) is that they are all based on cars that are so big and heavy that they NEED the top line engines, just to get out of their own ways).

        When herding this bison around, I felt like I was driving my living room. The bucket seats were springy, and offered little lateral (not to mention lumbar) support. Truthfully, they seemed like they were designed by the same people responsible for the buckets in my 1969 CobraJet Torino).

        The seating/shifter arrangement felt more like a school bus than a performance car. Sure, there was some hat-tip toward acceleration, when pushed, but it felt like an early-mid 16-second car.


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    • mlm

      Like somebody stated to each his own.Yes there are some ugly cars out there but these Plymouth Superbirds ISN’T one of them.I would take these over almost anything made within the last 20 years.

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      • ctmphrs

        That really isn’t saying much.What’s been made in the last twenty years that doesn’t look like a lump of cookie dough.

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    • Crash

      Why do people like you insist on cluttering up comment pages with drivel like that? What’s the point of even clicking on the car if you think it’s so hideous? Go look up hyundai elantras, and leave the cool stuff for the rest of us.

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    • walt

      No. I think the ugliest car ever made was that Studebaker in the mid 50’s, the 1 that u couldn’t tell if it was coming or going, had the weird round windshied/back window. Phew

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      • tommy okonski

        My dad bought a 1957 Golden Hawk brand new and it was with a McCulloch supercharger. all black and gold in the fins. AWESOME CAR fast ass car.

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    • LodeStar

      Ugly? Here’s the poor man’s version of an Ugly Super bird.

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      • TriPowerVette

        @LodeStar – Looks more like a stupid man’s dirt track late model, don’t you think? BTW – Missing the opened-up fenders w/flares. While we’re at it, where’s the cardboard roll cage? It’s very funny, tho. Thumbs up.

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      • Joe Machado

        Nothing will make a Toyota better looking. Even in corrugated sheets on this car, it would be slower. The cars airflow on its own would get confused.

        I am reminded of a guy I know who had a Toyota and had his stock exhaust removed and bigger pipe exhaust so it sounds like a long fart, that his fuel mileage will drop. He responded, no way, it will be better. I responded, you added weight, now the mileage drops.
        Small horsies, then add a person at a time, the mileage keeps dropping.

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      • Mike B

        Thanks ! Not often I see somethin’ that makes me laugh from my gut !

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  13. Chris

    Outstanding finds for the classic Mopar community. Nice to see that 2 more were looked after with care.

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    • Little_Cars Alexander Member

      Looked after with care? What a waste of a good garage. Why not drive them? From the listing: “There was so much clutter surrounding both cars we had to move everything out just to look at them. They were covered with decades of barn dirt and dust with rubble all around them as seen in the photos. It appeared as though he did a quick clean up on the white Super Bird at some point prior to my viewing and purchase but it was still very dirty. The Blue Bird had not been cleaned… it looked like in decades.”

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  14. Classic Steel

    I remember my dad getting one and crazy mom later sawing the rear wing off saying it just looked wrong in the community and driving to church . Dad didn’t speak to mom over a week over that fiasco .

    Okay kidding but I am curious what the flipper paid for both …

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  15. Jimmy

    I’ll be that guy, I thought they were ugly back when I saw them at the dealership new and I still think they are. Not to mention trying to navigate one on our highways. He can keep them as far as I’m concerned since I don’t buy my cars as investments, I buy them to drive them. JMHO

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  16. Mike B

    What, all those pics and not one with the headlights down?

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    • Billy 007

      Because they are vacuum operated crappy tech, prob don’t work. I remember looking close at one back in the day, even the nose cone itself had shoddy workmanship. Interesting? Yes, but not worth any more then a standard runner in my opinion. Another problem, those nose cones hit bottom getting out onto the street, and trying to park next to a curb, forget it. They were awesome at 200 MPH at Dytonna, but that wasn’t the real world, there they floundered. Just another front heavy muscle car that was only good in a straight line.

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      • Ed P

        They were never meant to be driven on the road. They were designed for racing only

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      • Dean

        Win on Sunday, sell on Monday…Not a feasible DD in any sense, but there’s such an aura about them

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  17. Lance Nord

    Back when I was young and dumb (1979), I had the opportunity to purchase a Superbird (in excellent condition) for $3,300. I didn’t do it. Since then, I’ve kicked myself more times than I can count.

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    • DaveMc

      Back then if someone had said that they would be worth six figures someday I would have lmao and called the funny farm on him.

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    • Billy 007

      I have said here before, around 1980 I turned down a hemi orange SB with six pack and 5K miles for 5K dollars. The guy said his GF was pregnant and he “had” to get married. In 1980 that was new car money, nice new car at that price. This was a 10 year old one that got 10 MPG vs the nifty Plymouth TC3 that I had just drove for under 4K (fully loaded). With the recent gas crunch, that was in and the big boys were out. Besides, I was finishing up college, couldn’t have even if I had wanted to. Okay, lets be honest, I wanted to, but I wanted the hot blonde blue eyed girl who lived next to me too, and trust me, that never happened either.

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      • Joe Machado

        And now the Tc3 or whatever is worth a few cents compared to that Bird you referrenced to. Offset is buying the Bird, goes up in value to the stratosphere, get your gas money back multifold, sell the Birdand pay cash for a house and new car. Instead, ya bought big screen TV to pretend to drive fast along with the furin car. I win, you are still complaining abou the big money guys getting them. You invested in reverse. I have the cars I always wanted. MPH, not MPG. Simple rule of car values: the more impracticle the car, the more valuable they become. Converts and Muscle cars. Not 100%, but close. Gotta get back in my building and do some finishing touchess on 61 Imperial LeBaron. Great gas user, and so comfortible. I have put over 350,000 miles since I finished it in Sept 1985. I drive all my cars, converts, muscle, etc.

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  18. Chebby Staff

    My uncle wanted to buy a new one as his first car and his dad (my grandfather) said “Everyone’s gonna laugh at you!!”

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  19. Chebby Staff

    So the owner approaches the seller just as he pays $187k for one Superbird. Value established. The owner allegedly knows all about these cars, owns TWO of them and has been hoarding them for years, presumably for a reason. One would think it’s in order to cash out, because why else would you not enjoy your toys for 35 years? But the seller claims he is still leaving meat on the bone for the next guy, so he must have bought them super cheap…from a stranger, who knew exactly what they are worth, and presumably knew the new owner was going to flip them, not keep and cherish them. Who does that?

    Also the seller says he prefers to sell the pair together, but then lists them separately which makes that much less likely….

    Anything can happen, clearly a lucky guy, but this is a strange story.

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    • Miguel

      I am sorry Chebby, I posted basically the same disbelief below without seeing your comment first.

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    • Frank D Ciliberto

      my thoughts, exactly… and by BTW, I worked at a Chrysler dealership back then and the sales personal were offered hefty bonuses to get these SB off the lots…

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    • Pierre

      Finally someone who can see things the way I see them!

      No one is wondering how much he purchased the 2 birds for?
      I guess the new owner of those 3 birds made a great deal…good for him.
      He was already rich…and will become even richer.
      Yes…prefers to sell them as a pair..but lists them separately….
      Lucky guy, but not such a nice story….it’s only money motivated.

      Great cars, too…3 of them together is a unique sight.

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    • Doug F

      The scenario seems legit to me. The guy owning those two cars for years just saw that guy pay a good hefty price for one car like he has. He probably figured the guy probably has access to more money and would be interested in buying both of his cars, and he doesn’t have to bother with hauling cars around to auctions and also paying the exorbitant fees they also charge.

  20. Dean

    Rick’s probably right..pull them when he sees the bidding leveling off, then go the Auction House route… “mistake in the listing ” or some such nonsense

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  21. Miguel

    The story doesn’t make any sense.

    The owner of the two cars is at an auction and sees this man pay $187,000 for one Superbird.

    He then sits down next to the guy and offers him two cars he has had in storage for a low price.

    It doesn’t make any sense because the seller, after seeing what his cars are really worth, would have consigned them to the next auction instead of giving them away.

    Anyway, the cars are now on the market and it will be interesting to see what they are really worth in the real world.

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    • walt

      where did it say that he offered that dude both 4 a lower price?

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  22. leiniedude leiniedude Member

    I’ll take the blue one, the 4 speed car!

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    • Chris

      Great, I guess you have $100,000 in disposable income at this moment?

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      • leiniedude leiniedude Member

        LOL Chris! It was a fantasy. I am lucky if I have a half a rock in my pocket! Take care, Mike.

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      • walt

        1 got more than that laying around, but my last car I will buy will b a replica AC Cobra [small blk] or a damaged GT 40, either 1 will get me acquainted with my local police/traffic court judge

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  23. Rick Rothermel

    And to think dealers couldn’t give those cars away when they were new…

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  24. Shady

    I’m sure he has set a very high minumium price on ebay, he has to keep them up for the allotted time that was set on eBay. I’m sure no one will reach the minimum bid but now everyone in the world knows about them mucho free advertising for when they go to auction. Like them or not they are some of the rarest American made mucle cars out there.

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  25. wuzjeepnowsaab

    Holy crapps, that blue one is about as X Rated as it comes for American Car Porn. Yeah these were the ugs in the 70’s, but so were a lot of cars that are now collectors’ items.

    I bet the 187K car is a 4 speed Hemi car in perfect condition and that’s why he paid up for it.

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  26. Shady

    Restored verses not restored that’s the difference.

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  27. Shady

    These cars were not designed for looks they were designed for racing. Dodge/Plymouth didn’t care if the ones on the car lots sold all they cared about was producing enough to offer to the public ( I think it was like a 500 car minimum) so they could run in NASCAR.

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  28. Bob

    27000 miles ??? underside looks more like 127000

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  29. Chuck Baye

    This is simply unbelievable wow what luck..wish I was that lucky and had extra money..its the holy grail of muscle cars

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  30. Steve

    My uncle used to work with a guy that has a more rare 1970 superbird that he bought off the show room floor when he was 16 and it is still in showroom condition and 100% factory original and it has the 426 hemi and a 4 speed

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  31. OilyDick

    The story here seems sketchy at best. Look at the oil filter on the white one, it seems to be a bit new for a car that was parked for 35 + years and never run or started, not to mention the over sprayed undercoating that looks a bit fresh. The blue one (underneath) looks like it was winter driven in the northeast for many years. Something seems fishy here, and it’s not the Barracuda…

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    • Jim in AL

      I agree. Something about this just pegs my bulls#itometer.
      There is too much road grime under the blue one to have that few miles on it as well as the new fuel tank, shocks and on and on. In the photo of the pedals, there is way too much wear on not only the brake and clutch pedals, if you look at the base of the accelerator pedal, the rubber is worn clean through. The photo of the pistol grip shifter shows that the pattern is totally worn off from the edges.
      All that in only 27,419 miles? A couple years ago I bought a Lincoln Navigator that only had 125,000 on it. EVERY part of that Navigator looked better than this.
      It’s also suspicious that BOTH cars with so few miles were “painted in the 70’s”. Hmmm… Really? Why? That would have been one of the first questions I asked.
      Paint and undercoating will hide literally TONS of problems.

      On a side note, the way that he made SURE that the Hemi Cuda was featured prominently in the photos. If that ’70 Hemi ‘Cuda 4 Speed is genuine it’s one of 5 built and worth a couple million by itself.

      If it was Jay Leno selling them I would be inclined to believe it. Since it isn’t, I’m way past skeptical.

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  32. irocrobb

    I met a older guy in the mid 1980s outside of Knoxville Tenn I believe that had a number of Superbirds in rough condition. They were sitting in and around barns and outbuildings. They were all in rough shape but mostly there. He told me most of them he got for next to nothing and even traded moonshine to a fellow for one. I always think back to this guy and wonder what happened to the cars.I think most of them were base 440 cars.

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    • Billy 007

      The only engines available, 440 440-6 426 hemi

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  33. george

    these cars have been on ebay before

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  34. James W. Marshall

    A dealer in Philly back then had to unsuperbird them to get rid of them. Took off the wings and the noses.

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  35. Bodyman 68

    Yup 2 more cars heading to the showroom to never be enjoyed again ! Such a waste of nice cars !

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  36. Joe Machado

    Class in Session: Production, Daytona, 499 in 1969. SuperBird, note spelling! Bird production, 1935 and all before December 31, 1969. Reason, new Federal law on vacuum headlites ends that date. If built after they would have been electric. Hence build date on body plate and build sheet states build November 20, 1969. All of them, but impossible. Just easy for the records. Rules of engagement in racing: Minimum production per Nascar in 69, 500. For 1970 because it was too easy, Nascar stated One car per 2 dealers in the U. S. Daytonas did not languish on showrooms per their looks or whatever you all say. Geographics played an important role in what sold where. Daly City Calif dealer had 3 Birds. Too many for the area. Forgot if that dealer actually ordered five. The Insurance squeeze on Muscle cars, especially exotic, yes exotic, would be higher. Plus, feds mandated take the lead out a little at a time till all unleaded. Some dealers put their Daytona in hiding knowing later it would be his retirement. Example, Moultrie, Georgia dealer took his new Daytona home. I took pictures of it their. Buyers went into panic mode when their would be a cure, and there is, hardened seats. No problem. I bought several Muscle Mopars, RT’s, Charger 500’s, one a Hemi for $60. dollars, clean, running nice driver. Never wrecked. A Daytona, and a SuperBird. All because people are controlled by a scare frenzy. Many followed that bueraucratic crap. So, many bought the small square shoeboxes from Japan and commited suicide in that little box. Gas is cheaper than blood!!! At any price. How would I know this? We created Winged Warriors at our home in Cerritos, Calif Summer of 74. Made the official start in January 1, 1975. We corresponded with Chrysler for years and promoted them thru this organization. Dodge last run in Nascar in 2012 and Kezelowski won the Championship. Back in January, 1970, I was about to buy new, a 1969 Hemi Daytona, Auto, F6 Spring Green, window was $5,602. Talked dealer to $3,500. Wife was not happy. No sale. Last January at Mecum in Florida it reached, $750,000. No sale. Might have sold later. Any more misnomers? Joey

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    • Joe Machado

      PS, I have driven between 2 Daytonas since 1971 till now, 469,000 miles. I tow with both.

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    • LodeStar

      Joey, good story. Understand the difference b/n THERE and THEIR?

      • Billy 007

        Or perhaps they’re Lots of car knowledge, less so much about 3rd grade stuff. Most Americans need to start paying more attention to lifes boring stuff or we are doomed because of stupid voters.

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  37. TriPowerVette

    @Joe Machado – Just super information. Thank you. However; would it kill you to paragraph once in a while? I struggled through it, because you had something to say, but, I imagine, many others took a pass, just because it was so intimidating.

    Big thumbs up.

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  38. Joe Machado

    Sorry as I want that done also. Had a short time to align thoughts. Did punctuate and for got thought paragraph process

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  39. Geoff

    Yeah, something seems fishy here. The white one shows a Maine Antique license plate that expired in 2017. There’s a picture of a Maine Antique plate in the auction for the blue one, expires 2019.

    New fuel tank and rear shocks on the blue one.

    They do look very clean underneath for New England cars

    These cars truly haven’t been driven in 35 years?

    Maine doesn’t have inspections for antique vehicles so no need to remove the old inspection stickers. They’ve no doubt been stored, but not driven for 35 years? hmmm…

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    • Wayne Whitman

      While these are Real Deal Superbirds the story has a lot of embellishment not sure from the former owner or the current one. These cars were 2 miles from me and I personally know the former owner and have worked on the white car and drove it last summer after some wiring repairs. The blue car has a stuck engine and some slight frame damage from an accident in the 70’s. The fuel tank was replaced and work started on getting it going last summer. Upon discovery of the engine issues the former owner decided to shelve it for awhile. A few weeks ago he decided to sell and the results are what you see here.

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      • Richard Amistadi

        In response to your comments. I can only say that my description on ebay is
        everything that the previous owner told me prior to my purchasing the cars.
        I took him at his word and after looking at both the cars I believe them to be
        as he stated to me. He certainly had every right to take them out here and there to work on or admire them, though he did not mention that to me. As far as the blue bird goes, once I got it home and added more Marvel Mystery Oil to all 8 cylinders the
        motor is free turning at this time. I, myself do not see any frame damage and he
        never mentioned any thing like that to me when I was looking at the car. I also took numerous detailed pictures of the undercarriage and frame for people to look at.
        I would love to see these great birds go to a good home and know that they are going
        to be well taken care of.
        Thank you for your information and I would like to talk to you more. My phone number is on the ebay site.

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  40. Richard Amistadi

    I’m the seller of the two super birds. Just to set the story straight I have both cars registered in my name Geoff since i have purchased the cars with brand new 2019 plates as shown in the photos. legally in my name from the DMV. I registered both cars in Maine where my home is with antique plates. The owner kept insurance on the cars till 2017. Why are there always people that have to start story’s before they no the facts?There is nothing fishy.

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  41. Millenkneeil

    Bad timing. They will bring a lot but nothing like what they would have before 2008

  42. DoctorX5

    Cars were ok…. but back then we thought they were butt ugly… that’s why dealers couldn’t give them away….

  43. Hide Behind

    There will always be “Walter Mitty’s” who dream of, well anything they see the others doing.
    Trouble with dreams is that 90% of times what they dreamed anout turns out to ne a nightmare.
    My bud at thst time and I both drove one of these to compare with a road Runner he was thinking of buying; both similarily equipped , 440 with 4 speed,; He bought the Road runner.
    Was he and II fooled or stupid back then?
    If you ever drove the street version bird on back country paved two lanes or in city traffic, then under same conditions. drve a Road Runner, which was more than a full second in a 1/4 with a way higher top end which would of chose.
    The bird plowed into corners and was so front heavy hard to kick tail out for cornering, and wallowed head to tail like a duck decoy in a storm even on city potholes .
    His only regret, looking back, is that He nor I did not chpose the year befores GTX
    Hemi convertible that sat in showroom.
    One can lay odds these will hardly ever if never be seen by lesser eyes once bought

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    Toys for the rich only and yes they were terrible to drive. Not sure about the story seems a little far fetched. They will end up in a private collection and driven rarely if ever. There should be a site called trailer queens!

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  45. Little_Cars Little Cars Member

    Detroit is working on electric cars. So is Japan and all other major players. All of us will be six feet under when the preponderance of vehicles on the road are cell-powered. By then, nobody will be using the steering wheel either. LMAO

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  46. Jay E.

    The white one is at 127K and the blue one is at 128K with 7 days to go. No cheap birds here.

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  47. Joe Schmoe

    Guess the previous owner also left out the the truth on all the sheet metal that was replaced with used sheet metal on the blue bird…great story but full of inaccuracies.

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  48. andre

    At 200 mph they are great, albeit the tire wear. Most stable rear on the track ! Front aeroflow still beats anything else made. Daytona was the best, too long for the street was the thought of the day . Plymouth did it to recover crybaby Richard. Today everything but front frame rails are reproduced for these kings of the grand banks. I say restore them all. Check out Youtube AMD Daytona build.

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    • Joe Machado

      I was there. Pic is Sept. 17, 2016. Bonneville Salt Flats. We used a restored 1969 Daytona as the camera car my son owns now, I bought in 1971. Camera is mounted on nose of stock Daytona.
      Sean spent 3 hours steam cleaning the Daytona in Wendover.
      Nascar Race Hub TV. I had suggested two things never done in racing history. One, have Tim drive his actual Bobby Isaac Nascar Daytona. My son, Sean drive the restored Daytona. Do a drag race on salt. 650 HP against 375. At 135 MPH, the stock Daytona was in front by 2 car lengths.
      Then, had Sean do circles around the Isaac Daytona and stated on video, that no body before ran circles around the 71 car. Its all on U tube. Have lots of pictures from that 2 days.
      I have pictures as a wrap on my trailer from these events.

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  49. PRA4SNW PRA4SNW Member

    I was at the Owl’s Head Museum the day after the auction, and the Superbird he won was just sitting there on the floor, so I got to get a real close-up look at it. It was simply stunning. I’ve always liked these cars.

    Selling these 2 off was no problem for him, since he already owns one of the nicest survivor Superbirds around.

    BTW: The white one sold for $150,200 and the blue one got $160.600.

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    • Joe Schmoe

      Not bad when $137,000 was paid for the for the pair.

      • PRA4SNW PRA4SNW Member

        Sorry, I don’t see where he mentioned what he paid for the pair. That seems counter productive when you are auctioning something.

        He paid $187,000 for the one he won @ Owl’s Head. Having just witnessed that sale, the seller of the two Birds would be crazy to sell 2 at such a low amount. I’m guessing he sold the pair for something over $200,000.

        But hey, maybe the guy needed some money and didn’t want the hassle of selling them via auction.

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  50. Joe Schmoe

    No, that was the price, I know the former owner, he told me this personally. He had a better offer locally but was sure they would be flipped and/or didn’t want to see them around locally if they were redone. At least they will now get the care they deserve.

  51. Rock On

    Would be a perfect time to crank this up!

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  52. David Rhoces

    you would think that such desirable cars would be stored better …just saying

    • Joe Schmoe

      You would have to know the former owner to understand, they had been in an open pole barn at one time.

  53. Hamtramck

    1978 right out of highschool a buddy bought a nice low mileage Alpine White 440/auto bird with a crunched nosecone for $1,600!

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  54. Joe Machado

    Forgot what a Bird cost new, but I did test drive a new Daytona in Jan 1970. Window was $5,602. Hemi, auto, 4.10 Dana, F6 green, black stripe, am radio, tint windshield. Fairly stripped.
    Last year, it reached $750,000.
    I then bought a used 69 Daytona in Nov 1971 for $2,300. Had 14,000 miles. I sold it June 4, 1989 with 201,000 miles.
    A banker bought it.
    Then it sold to another banker in Seattle.
    Then my son bought it and it is restored and back in family where it belongs.
    It now has 257,000 miles as my son drives it as an everyday car.
    It looks brand new, still. Zero rust as in never had rust.
    So, we are the exception to the rich hoarding and hiding them.
    P s, I worked by the hour to obtain ALL my Mopars, and a few non Mopars over the years.
    Stocks and bonds are no fun to drive or show at a car show.
    What is a car cover?

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    • wuzjeepnowsaab

      @Joe Machado, I can’t love enough the fact that your son DD’s a 69 Daytona

      Bravo to him!

  55. Leyte

    I’ve only seen one Superbird in my life but the one experience is one I remember back in 72 or 73 when I was in the 6th grade. My parents were driving us kids on Randleman Rd. in Greensboro, NC when I noticed a blue Superbird turn into a strip mall. Over the years, I have never forgot that moment and of course now, I wonder if the person driving was Richard Petty or not since he lived not far away.

    My parents also drove us past Richards house & shop and I remember seeing someone driving what looked like a smaller scale Volkswagen Beetle down the front driveway that led to the house. Once again, I wonder if that young person driving wasn’t Kyle Petty, but just don’t know. I have never gone back to Petty’s Randleman shop but thought that if I ever do, I have just two questions:

    Who was driving the Superbird that I saw and was that Kyle in Beetle?

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  56. MLM

    @ ctmphrs. I think I said ALMOST which means I didn’t include everybody because there have been a FEW things that look good (i.e. the new Vette, 2005-6 Ford GT,2017 Ford GT IMHO). I didn’t include everybody but then again you should know that.

  57. Roy L

    The 1973 oil crisis began in October 1973 when the members of the Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries proclaimed an oil embargo. The embargo was targeted at nations perceived as supporting Israel during the Yom Kippur War.[1] The initial nations targeted were Canada, Japan, the Netherlands, the United Kingdomand the United States with the embargo also later extended to Portugal, Rhodesia and South Africa. By the end of the embargo in March 1974,[2] the price of oil had risen from US$3 per barrel to nearly $12 globally; US prices were significantly higher.

    I brief history lesson.

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  58. Sarah

    I got the opportunity to drive a Hemi with Hurst 4-speed yellow and black new one of these when I was in grade 12. Ugly then and ugly now! The local dealer couldn’t get rid of it, and my friend’s dad was a salesman there. So what if you could chirp the tires in all gears!

  59. Mountainwoodie

    Funny how a Superbird thread needs a Rodney King moment…….just goes to show you how opinion sometimes bumps into facts. Barn Finds is getting around. I like that the owners of subject vehicles are chiming in. Not to mention Joe Machado and Joe Schmoe :) really interesting.

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    • mlm

      As long as there is no profanity,politics,or personal attacks, we should be good.Any forum is going to have discussions and maybe a few disagreements. Anyway I think the Superbirds and Daytonas are some beautiful cars.

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